This has been a rather bizarre election campaign for me. For the first time in my life I have been house bound and unable to spend long hours in the newsroom or in the field. The last thing on my mind at this moment is to worry about reporting the election campaign. But this commentary served as a wekcome reprieve.
It confirmed to what extent the Maltese take themselves seriously. At age 45, I cannot say that politics in Malta has changed. It has not.
Thankfully for me, much of the campaign was televised and for the first time internet-based as well. Together with my usual contacts in all the parties I tried to keep abreast of all the events.
This campaign was by far a surprise campaign. When it kicked off I cast my doubt about the excitement potential of the campaign. But the last ten days turned out to be a circus and a great opportunity for journalists.
Gonzi turned out to be great communicator with skills which have been grossly underestimated. Presentation has been always the forte of the PN and presentation was slick and simply good. The proposals were well displayed and easy to understand.
Sant is the man who has withstood a demonisation campaign and despite his cancer treatment rose to the occasion, fundamentally emphasing two main issues in his campaign; change and corruption.
Harry Vassallo was not really getting off with a campaign but was singled out until the last day by 'spin' and ended up running a campaign thanks to the obsession that a vote for the Greens is not to be.
And Josie Muscat returned to politics with a very poor team indeed but a sound track that reminded us of the Josie of the seventies and eighties;focused, fiery and resilient and most imporantly extreme right and revolting.
On an ideological level, the AN remain the sole party that has really made very clear political statements the others are really all vying for the centre of politics, with a mixture of liberal and conservative politics that makes them more or less the same.
True, the Greens have promised to put the green agenda at the top. But so have the Labourites and the Nationalists. Though they managed to set the debate on the issue of coalition politics.
So the main thrust in this campaign has been about change and who can lead this country.
Or better still CHANGE versus CONTINUITY..
The PN argues that it has never been this good and it can only get better and the MLP argues that it has never been this bad and the time has come to address the question of democratic deficit.
In the last week, the Labour party has won the game with its very well planned presentation of the JPO case. An episode that really should lead to the resignation of JPO, not because of any 'known' corrupt practises but because of the simple fact that he lied about his knowledge about the Mistra application. Yes he has a right to lease land for whatever he likes, but he cannot pretend to be applauded for this.
It is far more damaging to the PN because of the fact that JPO was fielded by Joe Saliba to front the campaign for three whole days.
The last two days were also hijacked by the Vassallo affair and the decision to arrest the Green leader two days before an election. Whoever cooked up such an idea damaged the PN and helped Vassallo tremendously even though he cannot justify not paying a court fine.
In this campaign, the role of surveys has played a very important part. This blog has been inundated with comments about the veracity of the surveys.
The best poll it must be said and Thatcher always said this; is the election itself..
But MaltaToday polls should be looked at closely.
It shows the trends and it is these polls over a period of time that should be analysed.
The shifts are the indication of what might happen next Saturday. But no one can be sure.
In this commentary I have refrained from censoring or even commenting. I feel that the surfers should have the right to express their opinion. Even though I feel that sometimes people take themselves far too seriously.
I do not pretend to be the most objective commentator but I try to be.
I believe that the abrasive commentaries of other bloggers who have nothing but bile to offer should be tolerated but they should also be taken for what they are.
And I am referring here to blogs which purposely hit out at the persona of Alfred Sant and Harry Vassallo. I too do not agree with everything Dr Sant says and I am in no way promoting Vassallo but I find these commentaries puerile, futile and counter productive..
This commentary will probably stop after the election. But it will continue in the not too distant future and whoever is elected should know that it is our intention at Mediatoday to continue with our media work on the portal and in akk our four newspapers.
Our incisive reporting will continue and I look forward to any scenario. One which may reconfirm Gonzi as PM or Sant as Prime Minister. Our job is to inform and relay the latest news, and I am sure we will do our job to the delight of our English and Maltese speaking readers.
Do continue with your comments and a peaceful election to you all ...
History repeating itself It’s been an eventful week for the PN, first with Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando and the confusion at Mistra, and now this: two days before an election, Harry Vassallo, leader of the Greens, is asked to report to a police station to commence a two-year imprisonment term for not paying two court fines related to VAT fines.
The decision to send him packing to Kordin was taken in October, but implemented now on the eve of an election.
It gives more ammunition to the Labour party and Alfred Sant.
If no one realised, this is kind of action can only work against the Nationalist party, and work wonders for the opposition parties, namely Alternattiva Demokratika. So really, if someone wants to blame anyone if AD wins anymore votes… they should point their artillery at the bravy that planned this suicide mission.
And then I was reminded by a good friend of the decision taken some years back by a select few not to allow an electoral contest to take place in the Marsa and Zejtun local councils by retiring enough candidates as required to render a no contest. It was an awful mistake.
This one is worse Last night I spoke to some bigwigs from the PN and they were shocked to hear that someone had decided to make a martyr of Harry Vassallo. They knew all too well that the last thing they need is a sympathy vote for Vassallo.
But yesterday’s action will only work to inflate the sympathy for the Greens, who whether you like it or not have policies which should be welcomed.
It is difficult for me to believe that no one in the PN did not know what was happening. When four hours before the police came knocking on Vassallo’s door, NET TV journalists were asking Harry Vassallo about the case?
Not without his consent Nothing at the Stamperija takes place without a green light. Even the flies have to ask for permission to suck on the toast in the canteen.
Mr Joe Saliba has told this newspaper that this is a frame-up. In the sense that the arrest warrant for Harry Vassallo was ill-timed and meant to harm the PN.
So who organised the frame up? Surely it was not the Commissioner of Police.
Or was there some secret subversive unit of the Labour party that infiltrated the police force to destabilise the Republic of Malta? Please, come on… pull my other one.
But if this was the case, why did NET TV rush four hours before the police, to ask Vassallo for his comments about the case?
And if Saliba was so concerned about this volatile incident which, as he says is a frame-up, could he not have pulled a few strings to ensure that the arrest warrant is postponed to another day?
I nearly forgot that Joe Saliba never phones ministers to complain about the way things are happening.
But AD’s campaign has been completely organised and financed by the PN with the generous intervention from hysterical women who eat and sleep before their PCs.
Harry and home economics Harry Vassallo is, as all those of us who know him, a rather disorganised person when it comes to his personal home economics. I know him as a person who is forgetful and inept at caring about his personal finances.
But he is not a tax evader or a fraudster. And yes, he should have declared openly his problem with the courts before the campaign.
But that is beside the point now.
If the political parties want to take on the Greens and convince the electorate that they are not fit to be in the milieu of politics, this is not the way to do it.
But Vassallo’s case is months old, and the ugliest part of the story is that the two sentences which were converted to two years’ imprisonment led Vassallo to make a plea to the President Edward Fenech Adami. The plea made was a direct request to the President for a presidential pardon.
Now from an article penned in this newspaper, it is clear Edward Fenech Adami has granted 141 presidential pardons since 2004 and the overwhelming majority (132) of granted presidential pardons concern pardons or reductions in prison sentences for VAT-related offences. Why Harry Vassallo’s request was denied is unclear.
People with serious crimes have been granted presidential pardons. But then I guess Harry Vassallo is not Zeppi l-Hafi.
I could of course speculate, but I will leave this to our readers who have enough imagination and paranoia to imagine why some people are more equal than others.
If the Nationalists had any sense they would have revealed Harry Vassallo’s two-year prison term at the very beginning of this campaign. Now, Harry Vassallo has become a martyr and if history repeats itself, then it is clear that martyrs get remembered… most especially in elections.
Is this the end? The Nationalists launched a campaign based on the premise that Sant and his policies do not lead to good governance, and that the PN policies can take this country forward. In many respects that might be very true.
And Gonzi launched an offensive on many of the MLP’s flimsy ideas and yes, many of the MLP’s ideas are bound to have problems when it comes to implementation. The tax on overtime and halving the surcharge are two examples.
But Labour has had a great advantage. In the last week, it literally set the agenda and landed behind enemy lines, creating havoc. Instead of continuing with the attack, the PN decided to defend, and worst of all, put JPO as their frontman.
They landed themselves in a minefield with Alfred Sant launching his corruption grenade at everyone.
This last opinion before the election was meant to be a sober assessment of these last four weeks. The Vassallo affair has clouded my vision. In my DNA I still cannot fathom a dirty tricks campaign. My DNA tells me to stand up and talk about the underdog.
But it does not change the fact that at the end of the day, the next five years cannot be decided on the whims of a select few who planned such a stupid suicide mission.
Yet I am afraid what happened today may have mutated the DNA of other people who cannot understand how this could have taken place. Someone will have to do a lot of explaining after next Sunday!
COMMENTS
03/10/08 3:46 PM, Chri
mela nixtiq najd li ilprediction in nazionalisti ihaluwhom al laburisti li isa qed jiehdu il fama li jicelebraw min 10 jew il 11 sa 2 jew 3 l iktar. din id drawa trid tinqata u l ebda diretiva mija responsabli bizejed ta dan agir li jikrea confusioni u periklu f toroq maltin u ghawdxin. nixtieq li dan il kliem mhux jaqa fuq widnejn torox u alkem jien ta fema nazionalista andi l ikbar rispett lejn michael falzon li ura profesionalita f kariga tieghu bhala deputat leader ta partit laburista.
03/10/08 7:17 AM, PROSIT STEVE DEMANUELE
PROSIT STEVE DEMANUELE!
Istja x'int tajjeb....
Ezatt qtajt... Ara tilghablix xi zewg biljetti tal-ambu forsi nirbah!!!!!
Ezatt istja qtajt... Labour rebhu u PN tilfu. B'kemm tilfu l'PN steve?? ghidli ghidli....
03/08/08 9:27 PM, eu
Bongu lil kulhadd,
Is-super one radio kif fetah fis-6am beda b'dawn id-diski:
1.Fever
2.Tears on my pillow
3.Three steps to heavan
4.Lollipop
5.Smoke gets in your eyes
6.Volare (Nel blu dipinto di piu'
7.Stand by me.
8.Wonderful World (din qed tindaqq bhalissa
MIN JAF DAWN IT-TITLI IFISSRUX XI HAGA?
03/08/08 7:02 PM, steve demanuele
i agree with you observer...infact,with the harry vassallo case,i wouldn't be surprise if ad get more than 5000 votes on their own...josie s party will get at least a 1000 votes
03/08/08 6:41 PM, observer
Good predictions steve..The only doubt is the 3000 to Third parties. I believe this could be in the region of 5K which would indulge a larger difference between PN & MLP. But for sure from what I can see PN are in a very good chance to lose Govt....Will see the outcome.
03/08/08 6:40 PM, steve demanuele
ejjew fl artiklu ta l 8 iccattjaw.....
03/08/08 6:24 PM, steve demanuele
hi...ha nibda nghamel il predictions tieghi.....fl ahhar elezzjoni,labour gab 134,000 u pn 146,000...mela,skond kif qed nikkalkula jien,il media ta voti validi,ghax issa nistennew li se jkun hemm bejn wiehed u iehor 4000 invalidi,se tkun ta bejn 187,000,jew ftit iktar....
il mlp,kull ma jghamel se jzid il voti ..ghaliex? 1)jekk ta l inqas 40 percent minn new voters jivvutawlu,dawn diga 7500 sa 8000 vot....2)is supporters ta l mlp m ghandhomx ghalfejn ma jivvutawx,ghallura hargu bi hgarhom...mela l labour,miserament,se jgib 142,000,dawn minus il cross votes...jien nikkalkula li se jkun hemm mill inqas 3000 cross votes...
biex il labour jirbah zgur,irid igib mizerament 143,000,ax jien cert li ad u an bejniethom se jaqbzu 3000 votes...mela pn s issa gew b 141,000...issa,dawn il 141,000 zgur ma jirriflettux il voti li l pn jista jgib...ghaliex...ghalkemm,perezempju,l pn se jzid 10,000 vot mill votanti godda,u jigi 156,000,se jitlef mizerament 3000 ghall labour u 2000 ghal ad u an(mill inqas),jigifieri jigi qisu 150..issa trid tqis li ghalmenu 3/4 ta dawk il 22,000 votes li ma ntefghux ha jkunu taghhom...ghamilhom 13,000...mela l pn diga waqa ghal 137,000....
qed tifmuha din...
it tbassira tieghi hija din...
mlp 147,000
pn 136,000
ad 4000
an 1000
ovvjament,nahseb din id differenza tista tikber skond kemm ha jkun is swing reali ..(jien ikkalkulajt 2 percent favur mlp),u skond kemm jistu jgibu voti ad u an
nahseb l izghar rizultat jista jkun 8000 favur mlp
u l ikbar rizultat jista jkun 13000+ favur mlp
li hi certa,skond jien,illi b vot jew iktar,mlp se jiggverna
03/08/08 5:15 PM, john
Mela ha nkellimkom jie huti , il-bicca hi li ghad ma' hemm xejn deciz , hadd ma' tilef u hadd ghadu ma' rebah , li hu zgur hu li sa issa ghadna qed icekcku l-kaxxa biex forsi naraw x'fiha hemm hafna ponderables u iridu jigu taken into account. F'kellma wahda biex inkunu nafu x'fiha l-kaxxa irridu NIFTHUHA u mhux incekckuha, ghada wara li jibdew jaqilbu l-voti naraw it-trend globali u imbghad donnu gej xi kocc cross voting . Il-lejl it-tajjeb lil- kulhadd
03/08/08 5:00 PM,
read again my comment, and see what i said.....
03/08/08 4:58 PM, maltesescout
Mr No name,
what the economist on ONE TV said was that there was a strong correlation between the distribution of non collected votes amongst disctricts (i.e. predominantly in PN districts) and the reduction in the %age of voters who actually voted.
Mhux li l-partiti qeghdin ras imbras.
I think everything is crystal clear now. I can't see MLP losing or PN winning.
03/08/08 4:56 PM,
jekk wiehed jaqbad id-difrenza ta kemm gew mitfuwa votanti u dawk li ma ingabrux flimkien u tghamel evaluation taghhom.
Isib li il pn tilef give and take xi 9,000, jigifri 3%.
Jien nahseb li l-mlp, jekk
ikollu ftit zghira mil-cross voting favurih jirbah.
Dan qallu ukoll il profs scicluna (ghalkem ma tax figuri), imma bhal ma qal hu, din tal cross voting kaxxa maluqa. Ghalkem meta wiehed iqabel mad-darba l-ohra, fit-2003 kien hemm l-issue ta l-eu. Ghalek jien nahseb li il cross voting se jahdem iktar kontra il-pn din id-darba.
03/08/08 4:37 PM,
Dan l-espert qal li hu jbassar sa issa li l-partiti qeghdin ras imb'ras. Fattur li wiehed irid jara issa hu t-trend ilfejn se jitfa'. Li hu zgur li l-PN naqqas il--voti.
Is -7 distrett ma nafx ezatt fejn, izda ma ninsewx li d-distretti nbidlu, allura trid toqghod fuq il-figura globali tad-distretti kollha.
03/08/08 4:27 PM,
Seventh District? what about it
03/08/08 4:25 PM,
Qieghed nisma espert fuq l-elezzjonijiet jitkellem u qal li din id-darba kien hemm 2% aktar li kellhom il-vot u ma marrux jivvutaw.
Issa se jibda l-eccitament.
03/08/08 4:22 PM,
Fuq in-NET ammettew li it-tnaqqis qieghed f'distretti hekk imsejjha Nazzjonalisti.
Nistennew u naraw.
Nieghqed nikkumenta kif qieghed nisma jien bl-ebda kummenti minn ghandi
03/08/08 4:20 PM,
Unteressanti li l-iktar tlett distretti li ivvutaw l-inqas huma is-7, l-10 u it-12 il-distretti. Hemm naqra x'ihasseb. Veru? Qieghed inkun oggettiv kemm nista, ghaliex issa irridu nitkellmu bil-fatti u mhux fuq kif nahsbu.
Posted at: 2008-03-08 16:14:46
Min kiteb din jghamel iniziali halli nibqghu nimxu mal-line of tought tieghu , jidher li mhux qed ihawwad .THX
03/08/08 4:18 PM,
Issa smajt li ic-cifra hiha 3%ivvutaw inqas. Dalwaqt tohrog ic-cifra ufficjali.
03/08/08 4:17 PM, Kurjuz
is seba ta' haz-zebbug?
03/08/08 4:17 PM,
b'mod ogettiv ukoll.
jien nghid li fdan l-istadju ghalija personali tkun sorpriza kbira jekk jirbhu il-pn.
03/08/08 4:14 PM,
Unteressanti li l-iktar tlett distretti li ivvutaw l-inqas huma is-7, l-10 u it-12 il-distretti.
Hemm naqra x'ihasseb. Veru?
Qieghed inkun oggettiv kemm nista, ghaliex issa irridu nitkellmu bil-fatti u mhux fuq kif nahsbu.
03/08/08 4:13 PM, tom
Turnout in yesterday's general election reached 93 percent, three percentage points below the level reached in 2003, according to official figures.
The last time turnout was so low was in 1971, when 92.90 percent of voters actually voted. That election saw the Nationalist government losing by a slim margin to Labour.
A district-by-district breakdown shows most districts having had a turnout of 94 percent but the 12th district (Mellieha St Paul's Bay) had the lowest turnout at 91 percent followed by 92 percent in the 10th district (Sliema) and the 13th district (Gozo).
The 12th district also had the largest number of uncollected voting documents.
Turnout for the local council elections was 86 percent.
03/08/08 4:12 PM,
2.7% inqas mid darba lohra
konfermat
03/08/08 4:11 PM,
Milli jidher issa ufficcjali - ivvutaw 93.5% li jfisser 2.5% inqas.
Issa nistennew u naraw.
03/08/08 4:08 PM,
Aqra t-times on line u anke it-tv's. Jiena ghidt APPROSSIMATTIVI.
Il-kummissjoni elettorali hargithom dawn.
03/08/08 4:07 PM,
OK sibta fuq it-times ghandek ragun
03/08/08 4:06 PM,
imma kif tispara bl addocc min fejn gibt info hadd ghadu ma jaf ghax mhux il-kaxxi huma gewwa
03/08/08 4:04 PM, Lis-Speach ta Sant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoSVkUrJwGI
03/08/08 3:56 PM,
Hargu l-ammonti approssimattivi tal-ammont ta nies li vvotaw.
Milli jidher ivvutaw 93%.
Dan ifisser fuq 3% inqas mid-darba l-ohra.
Nahseb li c-cans tal-lejber sa jkun tajjeb.. Nistennew u naraw.
03/08/08 3:37 PM,
Veru mal HQ tal PN armaw screen kbir u diga hemm il-gabbani tal-ikel
03/08/08 3:32 PM,
ghada l-laburisti se johorgu jiccelebraw ir-rebha b'25,ooo jew iktar fl-10.30am. carcades kbar ma malta kolla.
03/08/08 3:30 PM,
veru pierre? ghidilna hi
03/08/08 3:27 PM,
Il-Lejber se jirbhu b'25,000! Issa taraw. Ic-Centu Nazzjonali harguha
03/08/08 3:18 PM, pierre
no one can bec it's not true
03/08/08 3:16 PM, pierre
tistaw tifqu bdin cnn ilom ghadejn min filghodu .... cnn mhux vera
03/08/08 3:11 PM,
can someone tell me where to look on the cnn
03/08/08 3:07 PM,
can someone tell me where to look on the cnn
03/08/08 2:41 PM,
03/08/08 2:16 PM, Lisa
Who is doing the exit vote count??
Pah!
03/08/08 2:16 PM, Cennyd
is there any truth in the rumours that cnn put pn favorites?
03/08/08 2:08 PM,
From what I hear from the grape vine both parties are a bit consirned mostly mlp just waiting for the turn out.
03/08/08 2:07 PM, MSJ
L-ghasfur qalli li l-PN naqqas sew mill-voti. Inkwetati hafna ta' gewwa.
Ma jfissirx li l-MLP se jirbah b'xi tkaxkira, izda l-odds kollha juru inkwiet ghal PN. Zgur, Zgur, Zgur, jekk jirbah il-PN, li se jnaqqas mis-siggijiet. Ghalhekk b'JPO barra mill-Parlament ikun hafna ahjar.
Nahseb li l-AD izidu xi ftit voti.
03/08/08 2:05 PM, MSJ
L-ghasfur qalli li l-PN naqqasm sew mill-voti. Inkwetati hafna ta' gewwa.
Ma jfissirx li l-MLP se jirbah b'xi tkaxkira, izda l-odds kollha juru inkwiet ghal PN. Zgur, Zgur, Zgur, jekk jirbah il-PN, li se jnaqqas mis-siggijiet. Ghalhekk b'JPO barra mill-Parlament ikun hafna ahjar.
03/08/08 2:04 PM,
issa jekk jitla il labour.Peres li se jkun emm iz zero tolerance sewwa, dak ifiser li il koruzjoni se titlaq kollha?
Mhux sewwa ta, ghax l-iktar saying li nhobb bil malti huwa:
"min.... mexa, min ma ....ix, ...xa" Mhux sewwa man
03/08/08 1:58 PM, PIERRE
MELA b iex tkunu tafu ken hemm trend ma malta kollha li hafna nies ma marux jiegbru il vott liktar 10 12 13 9 pero il kumplament id-distreti kolla sofrew [277) vott inqas bejn wiehed u iehor pero liktar li sofrew huma 10 12 li irdopa minn 5 snien ilu u ghawdex ukoll...dan jaf ifiser hafna ghal part nazonalist u jaf ma ifiser xejn pero li nafu zgur il mlp sibost sa igawdi min dawn in-nies li ma gabrux il-vott pero bdawn biss mhux sa irbah mlp... issa wara il 11 inkunu nafu kemm hargu nies ivottaw jekk hargu 93%jew94% nistaw nadu mlp rebah imma ovjament irridu nistenew ghada ghax ista ikun hemm sorprisa imma nahseb mhux il-kass... zgur li din lezoni mhux sa tkun bhal ma kienet 5 snien ilu bekk il pn naqas il votti u kien illu jider li naqas il votti insoma issa naraw guys....
03/08/08 1:58 PM,
imma jekk mizewgin dawk jistaw jghamlu li qed int man, j*hx*. Dak jekk ma tkunx mizeweg ma jihux pjacir, jew alinqas dejjem ekk qaluli.
03/08/08 1:55 PM,
jaghzel min hexa l-anqas da l-ahhar 5 snin. Btw rajt il-JPO ghaddej bil-karozza bis-sound full on.
Id-diska "crying at the discotque". Minn kullimkien kienet tinstema. :P
03/08/08 1:52 PM,
issa jekk ghamel weda xi wiehed nazjonalist, miskin alla kif se jghazel? Kif jahdima dak? skond min ikun wed l-iktar??
03/08/08 1:50 PM,
Hbiex nzommu saqajna ma l-art. Mhemm xej cert ghadu. God Forbid jirbhu il-PN. Mort naghmel weghda jien. :P
03/08/08 1:47 PM, PIERRE
03/08/08 1:45 PM, kurjuz
sos igri mur u ghal bzonn mexxi l-arlogg lura u ipparkja quddiem l-iskola! Ghadek hemm?
03/08/08 1:43 PM, SOS
lisa, r u sad?
03/08/08 1:40 PM, SOS
ara jien kont sejjer nivvota mal mara u tfal. ta xejn sejjer mela la irbahna.
03/08/08 1:37 PM, Lisa
For an aging population .... we still need to grow up and not just grow old.
03/08/08 1:35 PM, Kurjuz
allura diga nafu li rebhu l-mlp bi 3.1 % ? Dawn kif tkunu tafhuhom?Ha mmur inlesti l-bandiera,
03/08/08 1:28 PM,
jista xi hadd ifehmni din ic certezza li ghandhom il laburisti li rebhu minn fejn gejja?
kif narha jien, id die hards se jivvotaw lil partit taghhom, u il floaters se jivvotaw lil min jaqbillhom, lil min jistaw jikkorompu... jigifieri lil PN
03/08/08 1:27 PM,
issa li kiku jihdu is sample qabel ma jigrupjaom ghaxra-ghaxra, kiku inkunu naf ghat 3 ta filodu min rebah
03/08/08 1:25 PM, maltesescout
MLP 3.1% more than PN. That's what was rumoured. 50.3% - 47.2%
03/08/08 1:23 PM,
Jiena kont ma erba ti hbieb labour u wiehed ivvota PN b'provi ghaliex gibet il vot bil mobile. Dawk provi
03/08/08 1:20 PM,
L-imhabba amja. :P
Jew tqazzet bil-pastazati tan-nazzjonalisti wahda minnhom.
03/08/08 1:20 PM,
imma nahseb l-agent tac CIA, laburist u biex qalilna din. Nahseb favur il labour, cali ta bla isema bhali
03/08/08 1:18 PM,
Man, mort nivvota u nhraqt wahda sew. Konna tlett ihbieb, tnejn nazzjonalisti u l-ohra laburista. U gbin wahda minnhom li hija nazzjonalista ivvutat lil-labour biex tpaxxi lil gharus.
Certa ghax ghandi l-provi. Ghada nghidilkom kif.
Haqq ix-xjaten issa veru qed naqta' qalbi ghax veru ma tista tahlef ghal hadd.
03/08/08 1:17 PM,
ma rridx jghidilna l-agent tac-CIA top secret xhemm fuqom.
03/08/08 1:16 PM,
maltesescout
x'kienu qed jghidu l-ahhar surveys tal-partiti?
03/08/08 1:16 PM,
and believe it or not this comment below is a good summary of what is coming on us. wwwwaaaaaaaa
03/08/08 1:14 PM,
Ga qedd nimmagina l-eddie jbul tahtu meta sant jmurlu biex jifirmalu il-karti. Di storika ha tkun. LOL. Jghidlu "foxx kemm ghandek ah fenek, dik il-gidba li gdibt fuqi hames snin ilu"!!!!!!!!
03/08/08 1:13 PM,
Ga qedd timmagina l-eddie jbul tahtu meta tant jmurlu biex jifirmalu il-karti. Di storika ha tkun. LOL. Jghidlu "foxx kemm ghandek ah fenek, dik il-gidba li gdibt fuqi hames snin ilu"!!!!!!!!
03/08/08 1:10 PM, maltesescout
Mr No name,
Blame no one else but yourself if PN loses. That's what arrogance brings about. It's human nature.
03/08/08 1:10 PM,
Ifhem j'alla ta'. It-tigrija sal-balkun, imma iebsa biex nirbhuha did-darba. 12th district, 38% sa 2pm. Tigix tghidli mhemmx xi haga stramba. U li geddu il-hin b'siegha!! Di qatt ma ghamluha qabel. Gejja xi kanna HAQQ!!!!!!!!
03/08/08 1:08 PM, georg
Does anyone know the turnout?
03/08/08 1:08 PM,
Waslet informazzjoni li fiz-zejtun hemm kjuwijiet kbar biex jivvutaw. dan jindika li l-labursiti hirgin kollha biex jivvutaw.
03/08/08 1:07 PM,
To maltesescout, since you know this. Which party exceeded the margin of error? What is all this secrecy, now voting is as good as over, so youn't influence anything!!
03/08/08 1:07 PM,
What 4% less then before polls have not closed yet. The % was much more as the queues were long and these were not taken into consideration it could be that we might have a 94% - 96% turnout Then?
03/08/08 1:04 PM,
Konna kif kienu il-MLP 5 snin ilu. Zewg saqaj zoppi kellna did-darba. F'sorm JPO. Jekk nitilfuha minnhabba fih.
03/08/08 1:02 PM,
maltesescout
what did the latest survey indicate please? do you have any news about them?
thanks
03/08/08 1:00 PM,
and since you know this. Which party exceeded the margin of error?
03/08/08 1:00 PM,
Lying ahead:
5 snin taht Dr.Parokku
It-turnout 4% izjed baxx mis-soltu.
Mhemmx x'taghmel :(
03/08/08 12:57 PM,
DON'T COUNT YOUR CHICKENS BELIEVE ME. WATCH OUT
03/08/08 12:56 PM, maltesescout
Kurjuz,
Parties conduct surveys regularly and they increase frequency and sample size as D-day approaches in order to reduce the margin of error.
Now, from what I gather, the two parties' surveys tallied over the past few days. i.e they are showing the same trends.
If as is being rumoured, the discrepancy between one party and the other exceeded the margin of error, then it's a matter for one party to have this confirmed and for the other to hope in some kind of freak result.
03/08/08 12:56 PM,
ahna aw se nibqaw man.Ha tkecuna min malta? xint tghid?
03/08/08 12:51 PM, VERTIGO
vera qazziztu lil kulhadd ....GHALXEJN SE TOQODU TIBKU, HUDU FTIT PACENZJA BHAL MA HADNA AHNA DAWN L-AHHAR 20 SENA....gonzi PN BYE BYE SEE YOU IN 5 YEARS TIME......BAD LUCK
03/08/08 12:35 PM,
u dak ma huma xejn man il betting sites.
Dawk tefaw l odds skond survey ta 4 gimghat ilu. Imbad l odds jicaqlqu skond il pool tal bets.
u xi 10 transactions saru fuq betfair.
Jigifiri kull ma qed jghidu kif jahsbuwa dawk l 10 u is survey ta 4 gimghat ilu ovjament!!
03/08/08 12:25 PM, kurjuz
jghidu li l-imqabba huwa indikatur tajjeb
03/08/08 12:21 PM, kurjuz
mela ghal nofs in-nhar . rigward bets web site x'hemm?
03/08/08 12:01 PM, maltesescout
kurjuz, the main indicators are:
i) behaviour of parties during last week of election campaign
ii)plea of party leaders for people to exercise their right to vote
iii)non collected voting documents by district
iv)turnout by district
v) finally wait for noon tomorrow.
03/08/08 11:59 AM,
l ikbar indikatur hija l injoranza li tiddomina f dan il blog
03/08/08 11:49 AM, Kurjuz
ma' naf assolutament xejn,imma ghalija l-ikbar indikatur hu jekk naraw 'l Michael Falzon jitbissem ghal xi nofs in-nhar , ifisser li l-Labour rebah jew ta' l-anqas il-Pn ma rebhux ; ghax trid toqghod attent haw xi tghid . Milli qed nara fihom tellieqa tajba , sakem ma' jweqqghux lil xulxin u 'jirbhu" L-AD xi siggu!
Ghalikom liema huwa l-ikbar indikatur , tghidulix il-car cades ghax ilu xi hames snin inhraqt!
03/08/08 11:33 AM,
Kurjuz donnok tghaf xa haga?
03/08/08 11:26 AM, BREAKING NEWS
ihokk rasu
03/08/08 11:26 AM, maltesescout
One last try perhaps?
03/08/08 11:26 AM, Kurjuz
hemm xi exit polls waral-hdax? Il-Bets kif sejrin? Michael Falzon qieghed jitbissem? Joe saliba serju?fi x'hin huwa il-kakolu li jibdew jghoddu? nahseb f'xi hdax u nofs, le?
03/08/08 11:25 AM,
Veru fejn u Jason?
03/08/08 11:10 AM, BRAEKING NEWS
il votazzjoni miftuha sal 11 pm
in nazzjonalisti hergin kollha jivvutaw biex natu cans lil labour 5 snin ohra halli jibdlu l leader taghhom
03/08/08 10:56 AM,
anka it-temp qed jiprova jurina xinhu gej fuqna...
maaaaaaa
03/08/08 10:53 AM,
IF PEOPLE VOTE MLP OR NOT VOTE CAUSE OF THE JPO CASE OR HARRY AND FORGET THAT THE FUTURE WILL BE IN THE HANDS OF SANT IS A MISTAKE.THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER AND I STILL THINK THAT PN HAVE FAR BETTER IDEAS FOR THIS COUNTRY,MLP CAMPAIGN TARGET CORRUPTION BUT OTHER THAN THAT THERE IS NO CLEAR VISION.
03/08/08 10:52 AM,
03/08/08 10:46 AM,
jason intbat fuq stealth mission, biex jarmi it-tajn ta malta fil bahar.
Halli, in-nazzjonalisti ma jkunux jistaw juzawh kontrijom la jitilaw.
03/08/08 10:40 AM,
Where is Jason Micallef have not seen him any were. I hope nothing has happened to him? I am saying so as usually he is always with the leader.
03/08/08 10:24 AM,
Jiena dhalt fil-blog tas-sahhara tal-bidnija u ghax ghamiltha ta' Nazzjonalista l--kumment tieghi deher.
03/08/08 10:15 AM,
ghandi domanda lil tal labour, smajt li aw ikun aw xi imlahqin mil partit.
Il one news, wara kemm jaqleb min kollox hazin ghal kollox tajjeb? La se tkun fil gvern.
Jien nisugerixi bejn 6 u 12 -il xhar.
Tistaw ukoll tibdew taqilbu il viewpoint bil mod. U forsi ghal xi xhar jew tnejn tkunu tistaw tghidu ftit verita.
03/08/08 10:07 AM, Etienne
Pierre,
jien tqazizt nara l-'fat cats' iduru mal-ministeri qishu taghhom, u jkunu involuti f'kull haga li jrid jaghmel il-gvern. Hafna gradwati, inkluz jien, nigu umiljati kuljum billi ma jirreferux ghalina ghal dak li nkunu tghallimna xjentifikament u jispiccaw jindahlu u jiehdu decizjonijiet hziena. Il-PN spiccaw ma jaghmlux distinzzjoni bejn Gvern Malti u d-Dar Centrali.
F'din l-elezzjoni l-klassi tan-nofs, il-klassi borgiza se tohrog tivvota jew lil MLP jew lil AD. Il-bicca hija li wara kull tbezbiza li ha l-PN fl-ahhar tliet elezzjonijet tal-kunsilli lokali u tal-parlament ewropew, baqghu jaghmlu oxxenitajiet kbar, fosthom il-kaz tar-Ramla l-Hamra, tal-korsa tal-golf fix-Xaghra l-Hamra u l-kaz tal-Mistra. Minbarra ma nsemmi lil Chambray li ilu gej is-snin.
03/08/08 9:43 AM, falzon
hope u r right :)
03/08/08 9:40 AM, maltesescout
You can see them further down falzon.
03/08/08 9:38 AM, falzon
hey maltesescout what are your predictions ?
03/08/08 9:38 AM, maltesescout
I suggest you ask your party secretaries at your HQ's. Their surveys tally.
03/08/08 9:27 AM, pierre
what do you thing now STEVE DEMANUELE??? PLS SEND YOUR COM.
03/08/08 9:27 AM,
waaaaaaaaw,tghid?
03/08/08 9:26 AM, Pessimist
Kuragg Nazzjonalisti...its not all over after all....we're in for a big surprise tomorrow
03/08/08 9:26 AM,
ma tantx tamel kuragg tihtol aw,nazzjonalista
03/08/08 9:00 AM, patrcik
Sorry patrick again
This is the reply of daphne as i criticesed her for not posting my coments.
[Moderator - Again. Try sending a lemon to the New York Times because you want to fight for the rights of lemons and see if they’ll wrap the newspaper in plastic and insert lemons in each copy. Freedom of speech is not the freedom to force private people to communicate your speech.]
OK so it is a private PN blog - accepted
03/08/08 8:56 AM, Patrick
jien ma tantx inhobb nati kumplimenti imma irrid nghid grazzi lil Malta today. Ghax kwazi kwazi l-unika gazzetta li tikteb fuq kulhadd u bla biza. Naf li jitla minn jitla Malta today ha tibqa tamel xol.
Min naha lohra il gazetti l-hrajn bl-ingliz huma cari li huma biased ferm lejn il pn. L-artikli ta quddiem tull il kampanja dejjem jatu aktar coverag lil PN.
Insomma kulhadd jaf li l PN ghandhom hbibe kbar mas sahreholders ta dawn il gazetti.
Saviour keep it up for your work.
03/08/08 8:49 AM, patrick
Din il blog l-aqwa ghax kulhadd jista jitkellem u jghid li jrid.
Tkun kif tkun il fehma tieghek tista tesprimija.
Morru amlu titwila fuq ta daphne caruana galizia. Tqazzek.
Kif kumplimenti lejja u tghajjir lil labour mhemmx.
L-aktar tac cajt hi li jekk tikteb kumment kontra il fehma taghha ma iggibilekx. Tghidlek your comment is waiting for moderation u ma iggibix.
Umbad kella il wicc vili tghid li tal- Labour ma jaccettawx kritika ghax kein hemm xi hacker u waqfila is site.
Miskina
03/08/08 8:22 AM, patrick
Nispera li jitilfu il PN.
Ikun l-aqwa messagg li jista jati il poplu lil politikanti mindu titlef mintoff. Dak in nhar konna nehhejna dittatur wara xi 16 il sena.
Jekk innehhu il PN inkunu nehhejna gvern korrott. Gvern korrott ma ifissirx ministri mahmugin biss imma anki nies hbieb taghhom li amlu favuri kbar li nieshom.
Kieku ikun messag tajba.
Le ghal korruzjoni. Difficli imma dak ikun il mandat lil Sant.
03/08/08 8:20 AM,
morru ivvotaw lil Shirley Farrugia...il mara tal-korrot ex Direttur tal Mepa
Wake up and smell the coffee
03/08/08 8:12 AM,
S'issa ivvutaw 45%.
L-inqas fit-12 'l-distrett - 38%
l-aktar fir-4 distrett - 51%
03/08/08 8:09 AM, maltesescout
ERRATA CORRIGE
My predictions:
MLP - 50.3%
PN - 47.2
AD - 2%
AN - 0.5%
Turnout: 92%
MLP to win by +/-9,000
margin of 3.1% normally goes beyond the acceptable margin of error for surveys conducted by parties.
03/08/08 8:06 AM, maltesescout
My predictions:
MLP - 50.3%
PN - 47.2
AD - 2%
AN - 0.5%
Turnout: 92%
MLP to win by +/-9,000
margin of 2.7% normally goes beyond the acceptable margin of error for surveys conducted by parties.
03/08/08 8:02 AM,
Sorry, hadt zball - l-aktar fir-4 distrett fejn ivvutaw 51%
03/08/08 8:01 AM,
"it-tabib ta' Harvard".
Qaddisa madonna xi gravita'. Ara vera kellkhom tirrepetu sena' meta kellkhom il-pesisa zghira.
Qazzistuni ta', it-tnej li intom.
03/08/08 8:00 AM,
Prosit MSJ il-veru bravu. Prosit. Tidher li tikteb kif thossa u mhux bhal dak il-bahnan.
S'issa l-inqas li ivvutaw fit-12 'l distrett (35%), u l-aktar fir- 4 distrett (1%).
Veru, nahseb li l-Mistra se tilghab parti ghax it-12 'l-distrett il_mistra m'hemm taghmel.
03/08/08 7:59 AM, Mark Camilleri
pierre jien qed nikkwota l-istatistika tal-kummissjoni elettorali habib :)
dawk huma in-numri li tat il-kummissjoni u jistaw jghidu li iridu tal-smash :)
03/08/08 7:58 AM,
Meta in-nazzjonalisti jghidu pari pari, (jew photo finish), kif qal il-fenek darba, taf xi jfisser hux???....
03/08/08 7:56 AM,
MSJ
naf nikteb imma ghandi hafna computer malfunctions, dan il-computer second hand min tal-labour gibtu.
Jew ghal Fredu tieghek biss tghod dik???
03/08/08 7:56 AM,
Prosit Mark I totally agreee with you. If turnout is lower then the last election, as the exact example given in 1996 then MLP tend to win. Pari Pari then PN have a very good chance being re-elected.
03/08/08 7:54 AM,
pierre man.
12 district 1000
l-ohrajn 700 u 600. Btw jien mieghek nzomm imma kif qed nghidlek jien :P
Xorta ahna ha nitilghu. :)
03/08/08 7:52 AM, MSJ
1. L-ewwel nett uliedi izzewwgu ghand Nazzjonalisti u ivvotaw darbtejn biss, u dejjem PN.
2.Din l-ewwel darba li bil-'spouses' taghhom marru ghall-ahhar Mass Meeting tal-MLP, u dan wara l- hnizrija li raw fuq il-Mistra.
3.Karrieri ghalik zgur li m'hemmx, ghaliex jekk int student il-veru hmar ghax l-anqas bil-Malti ma taf tikteb u harja f'wicc il-flus li Malta nefqet fuqek, u m'ghandiex dubju li se nhalluk 'repeater'.
Ghall-informazzjoni tieghek jien ghad baqghali tmien snin karriera, u ghadni kif hadt 'promotion' wara erba' ezamijiet, u kollox bil-hila tieghi, ghaliex jien l-edukazzjoni tghallimtha ta' veru u qatt ma hallejt lil hadd jitmejjel biha.
Infatti meta uliedi ivvutaw lil-PN, ghalkemm ma hadx pjacir, izda dejjem accettajt l-opinjoni taghhom.
Issa se nhallik ghaliex se mmorru nivvotaw.
03/08/08 7:51 AM, pierre
mark nistidnek tara smash tv u ghara u isma dak li qad jiena ta hi 10 district 1000 12 13 liktar li mangabrux u narga nad dan mhux jiena qatu imma smash tv news
03/08/08 7:51 AM,
12th tieghi u kwazi dejjem bilanvjata tkun.
U aw aw bala bdiwa bhal ma wiehed, u dawk anqas marilu it tabib ta harvard, jigifiri tagilx
03/08/08 7:50 AM,
12th tieghi u kwazi dejjem bilanvjata tkun.
U aw aw bala bdiwa bhal ma wiehed, u dawk anqas marilu it tabib ta harvard, jigifiri tagilx
03/08/08 7:48 AM,
12th district 1000 ras.
hemmhekk ukoll kienet tal-pn qabel.
03/08/08 7:41 AM, Mark Camilleri
my take on the uncollected votes:
1) uncollected in the 10th district are just over 600 and not 1000 like someone mentioned.
2) swieqi from this election forms part of the 9th district not 10th.
3) by the law of percentages, taking into account the 0.8% of uncollected in 2003 this year should have been around 3000 uncollected ones so really and truly there were "only" 2200 more votes than expected not collected which isn't too much in my opinion and those are surely not only PN votes although i agree that the majority are.
re: my predictions:
1) i voted PN in 2003 and voted PN again today. as things stand i think MLP are favourites to win but...
...we can have a better picture only when we know the percentage of people that actually voted today. this should be available some time after midnight i guess. it is also important to check the turnouts as regards to the districts especially the 10th, 12th and 13th districts. i would also put in the 9th as PN lost all the local council elections in this district.
a low turnout will inevitabely favour and MLP win whilst a normal turnout (94-96%) can favour a PN win.
however even this can be taken as a fact because in 1996 i remember PN officials say that the higher the turnout the bigger chance of a PN re-election and we know how that turned out.
the fact is that since there is no central issue in this election it is really difficult to predict a winner.
the real issue is are people fed up with the PN in government or are people fed up with Alfred Sant as MLP leader?
i guess time will tell so people stop the speculating a chill and wait for the result :)
03/08/08 7:40 AM,
int lil min tahseb li trid tghalem fuq in nazjonalisti?
Int fejn taf MSJ, il bierah qetilna li kuntent ghax ikonvincejt lit tfal u il mizewgin kollha. Bhalek fejn taf xi iridu in nazjonalisti? Issa tara ghada kif trid tibla klimek, fuq kemm se jgib JPO.
Int li kien ghalek, min kif tkelimt, il labour ghad ghadu bil-brigata laburista.
Issa jekk inti ghandek tant zmien li ghandek it tfal mizewgin, il karira tieghek waslet biex tintem.
Imma ahna iz-zaghazagh taht gonzi u eddie il kariri infethu berah, u ghanda options ghal kapacitajiet taghna, ghal min irid, ghal min ma jridx mawx, li qed jistudjaw l accounts qed il-kumpaniji qed jitfawom fuq kuntrat sentejn qabel ma jlestu, teachers dalwaqt se jkun nuqas.
Igri jghadi zminkom nies bhalek, halli kulhadd jidecidi ghal futur ta malta, mhux ghax kif twielidt u taht min gawdejt.
03/08/08 7:32 AM,
Sas-saghtejn ta' wara nofs inhar marru jivvotaw 45%.
4% inqas mill-ahhar elezzjoni sas- 2pm.
03/08/08 7:24 AM, MSJ
Issa tara kemm JPO l-aktar li jgib voti!! Iz-zmien jaghtina parir.
L-anqas li ma nafx lin-Nazzjonalisti!!!! Kun af li n-Nazzjonalisti mohhom flokhom (u cert li dawn jezistu ghaliex f'kull partit issib minn kollox) zgur, zgur, zgur ma jridux bikkej bhal dak fil-parlament. Jien lil JPO kelli mpressjoni hafna ahjar tieghu, izda naqbel ma Pamela Hansen meta qalet li hu 'prima donna'.
Il-ministri jridu jkunu ta' stoffa, u mhux ma l-ewwel intopp jinfaqghu jibku.
U Gonzi mhux iblah!!!!!!!!!! u jekk jitilghu l-PN ibqa' cert li JPO ma jkunx Ministru.
03/08/08 7:20 AM,
Isma jaqaw dahal l-ewwel xift ta' l-elves? Dawk li jghidu li darba kienu ivvutaw kontra izda issa wara ghoxrin sena haqqna nergaw nippruvawh? U li fil-partit il-modern issa kullhadd katina!
03/08/08 7:11 AM,
MSJ mhuma ha jaqaw ghan nejk xejn.
Ghax issa Sant se jkollu jafrontah lil JPO fil parlament. U il verita kollha trid tohrog, mhux li ried sant biss...
JPO se jkun wiehed mil kandidati kollha li jgib il voti, issa tara.
03/08/08 7:03 AM,
Forsi iddedew li ma jivvutawx kemm ta'naha u kemm ta' ohra.
03/08/08 7:02 AM, MSJ
Il-predictions tieghi nsahhahom l-ewwel nett ghax kien hemm 'l fuq minn 5000 mhux migbura, u kienu maggoranza kbira mid-distretti tal-PN (u li huma l-aktar mugughin).
Ghalkemm din id-darba hemm aktar votanti, izda jekk taghmel ratio allura suppost ma kellhomx jingabru xi 3000 vot.
Din zgur se tnaqqas mill-voti tal-PN. Mhux ghalxejn li Gonzi baqa' jinghi ghal voti sal-ahhar.
Voti Mintoffjani naf bejn cert li gew maggoranza kbira lura, u naf x'qed nghid. Anke l-affarijiet dehru, Mintoff ma qalx kelma wahda kontra l-Labour.
Laburisti favur l-EU regghu gew lura mal-MLP ghaliex jafu li b'Sant fil-Gvern se nissahhu fl-Ewropa ghaliex m'humiex 'yes men'.
Kien hemm partitarji tal-PN telquh ukoll, u hawn rajna ftit li kellhom il-kuragg li johorgu fil-berah. U dan nafu li meta ikun hemm ftit li jghidu fil-berah, mela ikun hemm aktar bhalhom li jibzghu jghidu fil berah.
Insomma, l-kurrent jidher li kollox kontra l-PN.
Taf fejn jaqghu tan-n--k il PN, jekk jitla JPO.
03/08/08 6:59 AM, pierre
min fejn naf xix kemm mangabrux votti??? it tv smash news hi....u in-naha ta fuq hemm hafna hunters!!!!!!!!!
03/08/08 6:53 AM,
In naha ta'fuq ta'Malta bhall Mellieha, Mgarr, Rabat etc hemm hafna bdiewa?
03/08/08 6:52 AM,
pierre minn fejn tafom dawn l affarijiet ? ghandi qalbi daqt tiqaf jien
03/08/08 6:51 AM, pierre
sa issa tider li mlp sa irbah. pero ma tistax tid forzi kin hemm laboristi li ivotaw lil pn ghal lewwel darba.......
03/08/08 6:44 AM, pierre
kulhad qisu jaf came on guy stop with this predictions
03/08/08 6:44 AM,
mem bzonn l ebda logika siehbi.
Dan anqas jekk taqbad il formuli kolla tal maths.
Mhux titfahom mil info li jkolok man
03/08/08 6:43 AM,
da kif qed taqbdu u tfajjru ir rizultati hi ?
03/08/08 6:41 AM,
my predictions
PN 49.8%
MLP 49%
AD 0.9%
AN 0.3%
03/08/08 6:41 AM, pierre
MSJ tista tid kif wasalt ghal dan iruzultat please
03/08/08 6:37 AM, pierre
min qal li min votti mangabrux huma 55%pn 45%mlp ma jafx xinu jad. bis bis ghandek 1000 vot mil-10distrat li hemm tas sliema swieqi insoma fortiza pn umbat 2 liktar li hemm votti li mangabrux huma 12 distret illi ukoll fortiza pn. 3 liktar votti li mangbrux huma 13 gozo li huwa kif jaf kulhad pn ukoll. kif tista qad tad 45 mlp li kieu kien hemm hafn votti li mangabrux min bormla ok jew min x fortiza tal mlp imma jiena tiga qalija qijad jindika fejn sejra.
03/08/08 6:29 AM, MSJ
MY PREDICTIONS: -
MLP - 51.8%
PN - 46.2%
AD - 1.7%
AN - 0.3%
03/08/08 6:29 AM, pierre
03/08/08 6:20 AM,
arem cali
ghax hamigtli l-iscreen bit-tajn...haq....
03/08/08 6:11 AM,
Mela bhalma qieghed ihawwad Gonzi fuq tal-Mistra ghaliex meta Sant urieh l-ahhar dokument ghamel tahtu, u din mhux jien qieghed nghidha izad qalieli habib li lili jahsibni Nazzjonalist. Din ta'JPO taghthom gewwa wisq u mhux bhalma qal "Joseph Gatt' ghaliex bhalissa se ttihom rashom. Fin-Naxxar diga lestew l-affarijiet ghal briju tal-MLP.
'Joseph Gatt' - din jew ivvintajta jew dahku dahka sew bik.
03/08/08 6:10 AM,
u miniex ha noqod ninheba wara subajja nixtieq hafna li jitla il labour pero jekk ma jitlax memmx xtaghmel lanqas siehbi..
03/08/08 6:09 AM,
jien nirispetta l opinjoni ta kulhadd u kulhadd jahsiba kif irid hu fl ahhar mill ahhar pero haga wahda biss nghidlek li mhux kull ma jleqq hu deheb so oqghod attent siehbi int ukoll.. Fl ahhar mill ahhar nghid prosit lil kull min jitla f din l elezzjoni u jalla imexxi il pajjiz kif suppost
03/08/08 5:51 AM,
falzon,dak huwa il punt siehbi. Li sant webes wisq rasu fuq haga li kella wisq ahjar milli hazin. u ghalnaqra ma iriskjajniex li tlifnija l eu. U li kien ghalih ma thalniex, dan kien l uniku bniedem fl ewropa li friza l aplikazjoni, l-evda mexxej ta pajjiz iehor ma gghamila.
issa jien ghalija min jizbalja fuq afarijiet tant ovji ma haqux chance. Mhux talli ekk, imma anka anka kif idahlet l-ewro kien kontra. Issa li kiku zvaluta il lira, kien jghamel ferm iktar hsara mil koruzjoni li sraet dan l ahhar 50 sena. Tizvaluta b 10% fdaqa taf xdaqa ta harta man. Kollox kien jghola b10%, peres li ahna nimportaw kwazi kollox, u dan sant stess qal li gholiet l-hajja f'dawn l-ahhar 5 snin, imagina 10% iktar.
dak riskju li jien qatt ma jien ha nihu. Ghax bhal ma kien se jhawad fdawn iz zewg ezempji ta l ahhar 10 snin. Se jhawad xi wahda fdawn il 5 snin zgur, jekk intuh ic- chance.
03/08/08 5:45 AM,
Dear Joseph Gatt... why don't you wait and see.. its useless blabbing about it now .. Am not sure which ways this election is going as we are hearing almost a bit of everything ... By this time tomorrow ppl will be celebrating ... who as yet no one knows
03/08/08 5:42 AM, joseph gatt
way back in 1992 cnn gave mlp a sure win. ghall ftit fallielu! :-)
03/08/08 5:41 AM,
if u beleive what everyone says
03/08/08 5:39 AM, joseph gatt
friend of mine was at pn hq. They are very optimistic. arja ta festa qalli. uncollected votes have been analysed. 55% pn 45% mlp. quite a surprise for me
03/08/08 5:36 AM,
Heqq ta kulhadd tasal xi darba siehbi... Ikun min ikun fil gvern l istess ha nibqaw nghixu.. nahdmu, nieklu , norqdu etc.. hadd minnhom mhu ha jghidli tmurx tahdem ghax hawn jien fil gvern
03/08/08 5:34 AM,
Bluman u ohjrajn,
Mela nsejt li l-ewwel refugju Joe Grima sabu ghandna tal-PN. Issa ejja nghidu l-verita'.
Jien xi saghtejn ilu kellimt wiehed (mhux xi wiehed li jharref) u qalli li s-CNN taw 2% aktar lil Labour,
Nahseb gejja taghna.
03/08/08 5:30 AM, Falzon
Imma stenna naqra hi.. Hold on :D Jien just ma nistax nifhem kif kollha tghid li A.Sant ghamel hafna zbalji biss u l izbalji tal Pn anzi ta Gonzi ma tghiduwomx... ghax daqs kemm ghamel tajjeb ghamel hazin ukoll... Jien kont minn dawk li ma emmintx fl ewropa jew forsi ghax bzajt minnha illum il gurnata nemmen li affarijiet tajbin hargu minnha allura bhal ma nemmen din jien ala haddiehor ma jistax jamila ukoll ?
03/08/08 5:25 AM,
le flazon my friend.
Mal futur tieghi u tat-tfal ma nilabx bic chances, ghax hajja wahda ghandi.
U jekk sant jirepeti nofs li zbalji li ghamel sisa, ikun ghaxaqilna.
03/08/08 5:23 AM, Falzon
Bluman jien nemmen li min jitwield tond ma jmutx kwadru pero mill izbalji kulhadd jista jitghallem u everybody deserves a second chance
03/08/08 5:15 AM, bluman
tinsewx il faqar li halejwna fih is socjalisti jew id dittaturi. titkelmu fuq il koruzjinu , saqsu lil min kin jahdem ma lorry sant, lil ta karmenu vella li ta wistin abela, lil ta joe grima, nahseb ada tinstema il koruzjoni ta dak zmin. ISTHU TAJJRUNA B DNA . INTOM QADT MA TINBIDLU SOCJALISTI
03/08/08 4:46 AM,
Steve I tried looking for the CNN polls and those of the BBC. Where can I find them as I imagen that they will surely do quite detailed analysis. If they are the sam as they said this week that Obama will win over Clynton mela vera tajbin.
03/08/08 4:41 AM,
Id-delegat ta'labour tkellem fuq il-korruzzjoni ajma minn tkellem spokesman ta' Gordon Brown. Billi mhux mifni bil-korruzzjoni dak.
03/08/08 4:27 AM,
huwa terminu wisa hafna hares naqra aw man, ha titalem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(electronic)
issa ejduli intkom, kif tista temen zero tolerance meta ragel bhal dak hela tant hin biex itela lil partit tieghu fil gvern.
Jien nahseb mhux ghas sodisfazjon biss.
Kemm se jkun aw nies li ftit zmien iehor ser ihosom li gew inganati. AJMA AJMA
03/08/08 4:22 AM, john
Bilhaqq Spammer xi tfisser ghax jien "irjurant'
03/08/08 4:20 AM, John
Mela ," Gone fishing" ...........for votes!
03/08/08 4:16 AM,
Hawnekk kien aw delegat tal-labour, qalla hu stess.
Li kien qed igelna nahsbu li kien xi 5 persuni diferenti.
Illum mhux aw. Ghax qed quddiem xi skola jiprova jigbor xi hint ta exit polls...
03/08/08 4:10 AM, john
fuq dal-blog min kien haw hafna ghal xi skop politiku, ghaliex issa naqsu , il-bierah kull zewg minuti kien hemm comment minn hafna ismijiet , rajt hafna tal-Lejber godda jghidu li qabel kienu favur l-eu jew il pn , ftit nahseb li rajt li qalu li huma pn u qabel ivvutaw MLP.
Qishu xi haga l-istess tal-polls, jista jkun li vera.
03/08/08 3:56 AM,
fuq dal-blog aw dil-haga, li jekk tghid li ha tivvota MLP u tkun ivvutajt PN qabel, u tkun qedd tghid il-verita', kulhadd jaqbad ipixxi tahtu u hlief "bullshit" "spammer" "piss off" "I don't believe you" "labour kienu korrotti qabel" ma tarax bhala rispodta.
Ma ghandix dritt nivvota labour jien jekk irrid??
Fejn id-demokrazija??
03/08/08 3:54 AM, Analysis
Unfortunately,
for those of you who have an idea of how opinion polls work, immediately realise that maltatoday's polls have a very high margin of error.
When you have to call nearly double your sample to get an answer, the conclusions say pretty much nothing. Most especially when results in Malta between the two main parties vary at most about 4%. And this has been a phenomen mostly this year, since no one else published any surveys, i think the reason being that out of the random sample too many were decling to answer, and as you keep calling the margin of error increases by a lot, due to biasdness.
One at this point needs to reason things and make somekind of an itelligent prediction. The bets we are seeing on the net are also not to stay on, since the odds change according to the pool of bets.
But I think they are giving the most accurate direction, although by a far less difference between the two main parties.
Remember that those uncollected votes are also an indication of those who have their vote and will still choose to not go and vote.
I think seeing all this a PN victory is very unlikely.
03/08/08 3:51 AM, steve demanuele
SKOND CNN U BBC,KIF QALULI,GHAX GHADNI MA RAJTX JIEN,MLP FAVURIT HAFNA
03/08/08 3:44 AM,
Opinjoni tieghi
5300 vots ma ngabrux..boza hamra ghall-PN. U l-izjed distretti li ma ngabrux 10,12,13. Fejn hemm l-izjed nazzjonalisti. Gejja xi sorpriza nahseb. Fuq 17,000 votant. Dawk jibbilincjaw il-xulxin nahseb. L-ewwel votanti skond il-familja jivvutaw hafna drabi.
03/08/08 3:40 AM, john
To Steve hawn Malta fuq polls jiena xettiku ghax ahna pajjiz zghir,u n-nies ftit tafda lil xi hadd fuq it-telefon isaqsija lil-min se tivvota.
Kieku l-amerka nahseb li differenti l-haga.Ma nifhimx x'hi hafna anzi nhossni injurant, imma is-samples li rajt kienu wisq lejn naha.
5,300 voti li ma ngabrux zgur li m'hix favur in-nazzjonalisti, id-distretti huma 'teritorju' nazzjonalist'.
L-exit polls ma' nemminhomx t'haw Malta ghal istess raguni iktar l' fuq.
03/08/08 3:23 AM, pierre
STEVE DEMANUELE...inti tista tidina x'tahseb sa iss a u x'ahseb fuq 5.300 votti li ma ingabrux please.
03/08/08 1:54 AM,
jekk jitla il lejber ta shabna is socjalisti (li qedin jigdbu li vvutaw PN fl 2003 biex minghalijhom jikkonvicu lilna naqalbu bhalhom), nassigurakhom li wara xahar din tal korruzzjoni tmut fuq fommha (bhal ma allajbierkek diga mietet fuq fommha l gholi tal hajja - ghax issa il korruzzjoni qeda iddejjaqhom lis socjalisti).
U x inhu il punt ezatt taghkhom? li taht il lejber se jinqered il fenomenu tal korruzzjoni? tajba din! Imma bilhaqq ... insejt li AS superman u kapaci jaghmel dak li hadd qablu fl univers ma rnexxielu jaghmel ...
03/08/08 1:34 AM, steve demanuele
to SAVIOUR BALZAN....hi dear mr Balzan...if you are homebound,you got no excuses ...please,give us another commentary..please post another commentary,even after 10 o clock tonight,giving your predictions on these elections,and why you came to this conclusion....so that everyone will give his prediction,and we will see who was right or who was wrong tommorrow....thanks
TO ALL OF YOU OUT THERE...please start giving out your predictions on the result of the election...please,do not forget AD and AN,in your predictions,as they can increase or decrease the result between the two main parties,according to their votes...please,do not be partizan(or at least not extremely partizan,even i have my party)..try to draw your conclusions from the statistical point of view....
03/08/08 1:33 AM, steve demanuele
to SAVIOUR BALZAN....hi dear mr Balzan...if you are homebound,you got no excuses ...please,give us another commentary..please post another commentary,even after 10 o clock tonight,giving your predictions on these elections,and why you came to this conclusion....so that everyone will give his prediction,and we will see who was right or who was wrong tommorrow....thanks
TO ALL OF YOU OUT THERE...please start giving out your predictions on the result of the election...please,do not forget AD and AN,in your predictions,as they can increase or decrease the result between the two main parties,according to their votes...please,do not be partizan(or at least not extremely partizan,even i have my party)..try to draw your conclusions from the statistical point of view....
03/08/08 1:22 AM,
tifel ta haddiem,tider li adek zghir ta,ija aw wisq korruzjoni!uzgur ax int ma tafx xkin aw fi zmien il labour alek titkelem ek,IFTAH MOHHOK
03/07/08 11:54 PM, Lino Spiteri
Hawnek jekk tharsu lejn it-time posted issibu li kull ma' hawn ftit nies jiktbu kulltant u ohrajn suppost ikkonvertiti dejjem jikkonkludu hazin fuq fatti imdawrin , gieli jwiegbu lilhom infushom b'mod goff biex jigbdu s-simpatija len il-partit taghhom, Bye..
03/07/08 11:48 PM,
WHAT A LOAD OF BULLSHIT. Keep it it MLP saying that you had voted PN before. Who believes you. Those MLP who had voted for EU and have seen that their vote was not wasted they will definately vote again PN as the leader who was there five years ago is still there doing the same mistakes. We have to wait and see tomorrow.
03/07/08 11:24 PM, tifel ta haddiem
bhal ma jghidu z zmien ssajru l bajtar...u hekk gara lil partit nazzjonalista...jien wiehed li vvutajt PN fit 2003 ghax emmint Fl'Europa...Llum jkolli nistqar li kontra qalbi jkolli nbiddel...Ghawn wisq korruzzjoni fdal pajjiz hekk Zghir...Anke l moghod kif pprojetta ruhu l PN F'din L-elezezjoni, wisq nhoss li ma kienx praparat bizzejed....In Nazjonalisti nfhom hafna ahjar u aktar Konvincenti....Din L-idea li tiffoka Kampanja Kontra Alfred Sant nahseb m'ghadiex Treggi, aktar u aktar meta l-istess mizuri li ha sant fin 96/98 hadhom Gonzi f'dawn l-ahhar erbgha snin.In Nazjonalisti gralhom ezatt bhall ma gralhom LMLP Fl'87,Korrotti u bla ideat , frott ta zmien twil fil poter..rridu nitghalmu nbidlu fdan il pajjiz jekk vera rridu naraw gid mill politikanti taghna...qedin naghmlulhom hajjithom wisq facli...u tinsewx li dawn kolla jithalsu min fuq darna.....
03/07/08 10:42 PM,
bluman.
Dittatur hu min mdawwar bl-intiena u jibqa' jghidilha "DAVIDOFF jew HUGO BOSS", u jsib xi wiehed/wahda bhalek li ghax ir-re jghid li hu mlibbes (allavolja ikun gharwien), ghax tibza, tibqa ccapcaplu.
03/07/08 10:33 PM,
Veru sewwa qieghed jghid anonymous, dak iz-zmien id-DNA tal-laburisti kien ivvalenat.
Tafu tisthu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jien mhux bhalek, nista' nitkellem ghax jien ukoll ivvutajt lil PN, u kien tghallimt l-iskola biex ma nhallix min jitmejjel bija.
VIVA L_MISTRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03/07/08 10:29 PM,
bluman,
GRAZZI TAL-PARIR, SE NIEHU L-PARIR TIEGHEK, GHALIEX KIEN HEMM ZMIEN META JIEN KONT STUDENT LI JEKK TKUN TIFEL/TIFLA TAL-HADDIEM U MA JKOLLOKX XI ZEWG KUNJOMIJIET MA KONTX TIDHOL FL-UNIVERSITA'.
l-EWWEL STIPENDJI L-MLP GHALHEKK GHAMILHOM BIEX JGHIN IT-TFAL TAL-HADDIEMA.
SERRAH MOHHOM, SE NIEHU L-PARIR TIEGHEK.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03/07/08 10:23 PM, bluman
tinsewx li kien awn min ajjarna li aghna DNA hazin. thallux id dittaturi jigvernaw ax dawk hsara bis jafu jamlu ma min ma jaqbilx maghom. KURAGG u ahsbu bmohok al gid ta pajjizna u ta uliedna
03/07/08 10:17 PM,
Dr Mangion resigned to make good for a cicil servant's mistake, and Dr Cilia (to use your words) was banished.
So?????????????????
That is how politics should be managed.
Or maybe you're one of the few PN's wave cheerers and you are happy with all this corruption, and these are subtantiated by documents??????
03/07/08 10:09 PM,
IPPROVAW JFOTTU L-MISTRA-------------U ARA X'GARALHOM.........MINN DAK ID-DISTRETT MA INGABRUX 1000 VOT...........U IBQGHU ZGUR LI MINN DAWK LI GABRUH IL-VOT SE JUZAWH TAJJEB......EHHHHH, IN-NIES TITMEJJEL BIHOM DARBA, DARBTEJN, IZDA MBAGHAD IZZEJJED KOLLU ZEJJED!!!!!!!!
03/07/08 10:05 PM, MSJ
Hbieb,
Illum jien ninsab kburi li wliedi GHALL-EWWEL DARBA se jivvotaw lil MLP u wrejni ghaliex marru fl-ahhar mass meeting tal-MLP.
Jiena qatt ma ndottrinajthom kontra hadd, ghaliex jiena ukoll kien hemm zmien li ivvotajt lil PN.
Ghamlu kuragg. Thallu lil hadd min jinqeda bikom halli jhaxxen butu.
VIVA L- MISTRA!!!!!!!!!!!
03/07/08 9:56 PM,
7 am Election Day morning. I propose a new poll for you:
Scenario1 : MLP looses election
Will Sant leave teh helm of teh party?
Vote yes or No.
My vote: NO - too bloody stubborn
Scenario 2: PN looses election:
Will party stick together?
My vote: No
Most old guard will be shown the way out, especially Mr JS, the change can be that drastic to call it a new PN.
03/07/08 9:50 PM,
Dr Sant – as he likes to call himself. Still has old guard – if I recall he asked Mangion to leave on suspected corruption or mal practice 10 years ago, and Cilia – aka the lurch was banished. And the only thing we heard– be scared of these corrupt lot – But what if your are Prime minister? What will you do apart from scarring us of the old guard? So very little was said in way of policies or reforms to be implemented. You offered change but failed to say how, where and when. Gonzi has a much better view of the way forward, but too many skeletons in the PN’s cupboard – Pity to lose. Pity too MLP has lost so many good brains from its ranks due to his remarkable stubbornness.
03/07/08 9:43 PM, censored
..and I forgot to add Opus Dei..politics makes strange bedfellows if you know what I mean
03/07/08 9:40 PM,
Gonzi - did a good job, quite remarkable to achieve the results he got in 4 years. Bad luck and lack of decisiveness from PN leadership left him with an old guard at the helm of the ministries. Bad choice not to make changes - if they threaten to leave the party fold – so be it - fuck them, I would be happy to loose on my grounds than on someone else’s agenda.
03/07/08 9:35 PM, censored
someone here wanted to know about Freemasonry and another wanted to know about censorship.
I suggest they ask 'The Times' to start off with!!!!
03/07/08 9:34 PM,
what a poor campaign from both sides - Malta spent around Lm 400 million in roads and the same amount on a new hospital - and MLP come up with a big shot - a so far non existant disco at Mistra. Shame on you JPO, shame on you MLP for not finding any more. Ninu had Lm 70,000 - hardly changes the country's future. AND what did PN do !! - defend defend defend - Joe please move on - your campaign capabilities are rather weak. 2003 was a GOD send - EUROPA issue.
03/07/08 5:33 PM, Majsi
Min ghnadu rasu fuq ghonqu ghada filghodu ghazla wahda ghandu: li jivvota lil MLP. Xi hadd semma' lil Daphne. Dik ghandha hdura indfaldatha kontra l-laburisti qishu li hi xi kittieba tal-kalibru ta' Isabel Allende, imma minflok tikteb fuq gazzetta tal-laqx. Bina wera kemm il-PN nizlu fil-baxx. Hlief fuck off, fuck off ma jafx.
Il-PN dardar lin-nies jahseb li hu l-barka ta' Malta mis-sema. Wasal iz-zmien li jtiru.
03/07/08 5:00 PM, MalteseFalcon
23 sena kull ma ghandi. Jigifieri din ghadha t-tieni darba. Jien dejjem emmint li partit qatt ma ghandu jdum iktar minn 10 snin fil-gvern ghax kemm il-Labour qabel u kemm il-PN meta damu aktar minn 10 snin ma baqax efficjenti u jibqa jgawdu l-istess 4 nies u tibda tirrenja l-arroganza u gieli anke l-korruzzjoni. Nerga nghid kemm il-Labour u kemm il-PN kellhom dan id-difett u t-tnejn li huma ghamlu gid ghal pajjizna meta tirraguna sew tul l-istorja u dawk li jahsbu li le, sinjal li jaraw dak li jaqbillom biss, u jaraw it-tajjeb ta partit wiehed u l-hazin kollu ta l-iehor.
03/07/08 4:53 PM,
gieli ivvutajt differenti qabel??
03/07/08 4:50 PM, MalteseFalcon
Jien bhalek inhossni. Bhalissa nemmen li hawn bzonn bidla fil-pajjiz u ha nivvota ghall-bidla. Imma din l-opinjoni tieghi u nirrispetta lil min ghandu opinjoni ohra.
03/07/08 4:48 PM,
MalteseFalcon naqbel mieghek man. Jien fil-fatt Malti kwazi ma nara xejn. Ghax anke "l-indipendenti" xi kultant narahom jiehdu falza stika. Il-punt hu li gonzi qedd jghidli kemm ghamel gid. Issa jien jew qieghed fl-arja jew ma nafx. Imma dal-gid kollu li gie ma tantx hassejtu jien. Fej kont bqajt.
03/07/08 4:44 PM, MalteseFalcon
NET news ridt nghid mux NEW news :P
03/07/08 4:44 PM, MalteseFalcon
Sewwa taghmel jekk tivvota hekk. Pero sfortunatament hawn hafna wisq affetwati minn ONE news jew NEW news u gew brainwashed matul iz-zmien. Tant li jigri x'jigri certu nies dejjem jibqaw jivvotaw l-istess partit. Jibilaw kull ma jghidiluhom.
03/07/08 4:43 PM,
min jkollu interess dirett jigu jaqa u jqum minn kollox u jivvota skond l-interessi tieghu.
03/07/08 4:42 PM,
heqq jien nahseb in-nies li qedd ma hadu xej mil-politikanti, bhali, nahseb dejjem b'opinjoni tieghu jivvota.
03/07/08 4:40 PM, MalteseFalcon
Ivvota lil min trid basta tkun vera l-opinjoni tieghek.
03/07/08 4:38 PM,
Brainwashed.
MalteseFalcon, l min tridni nivvota biex ma nkunx brainwashed?
03/07/08 4:36 PM,
jiena ha nwaqaf partit ta kontra il propoganda.
Xi hadd interesat ikun is-segrtarju generali tal-partit??
Anti-stalin party insemih, la dawn iil godda kollha jibdew bil a
HAHAaaa
03/07/08 4:31 PM, MalteseFalcon
Ivvotaw bilaqal u mohhkom hemm. Tkunux brainwashed. Viva Malta :)
03/07/08 4:30 PM,
Ejja johny,
Qedd nistennew il-bulettin.
:P
03/07/08 4:28 PM,
john schembri adu kemm lahaq issa Head of News ghall-Net News.
Pierre lahaq l-istess ghall-one news.
03/07/08 4:26 PM,
l-izjed li ma ngabrux voti mill-10, 12, u 13.
12 distrett 1000 vot ma ngabrux.
gejjin xi 5 snin ma fredu, xi dwejjaq!!!!
03/07/08 4:24 PM,
dak kollox mahsub u bil-lista u kemm hu miktub mghaggel.
morru orqdu , kont hsibt li kienu xi fluxx news
03/07/08 4:23 PM,
mhux daqqa one news u daqqa net news haw.
03/07/08 4:21 PM,
rega wasal il hin ghal one news mid dera
hahaha
03/07/08 4:15 PM,
Imbirikalla JPO kera l-art ghall-LM45000, biex minn krieha jmur jaghmel picnic fiha. Ghax skond il-ligi, dik l-unika haga li tista taghmel fuqa dik l-art.
ara naqa fej wasalna.
Btw, il-prim ministru Gonzi saqsiena mistoqsija il-bierah.
"Xi hadd jrid jigi jispjegali kif kap ta' partit gie arrestat jumej qabel l-elezzjoni".
Minn kien prim ministru da l-ahhar 4 snin Dottor Gonzi?
Btw Lord Adonis, li qal li RC l-ingilterra issir meta it-tfal jkollohom 5, sar Lord Atkins issa.
Plus li hekk, Ministru ta' l-edukazzjoni ta' l-Ingilterra ndirizzah bhala "da hemm wiehed jismu Lord Atkins".
Ara naqa ta'. Oqoghdu ghidu li il-Laburisti Hamalli. JIen nahseb kulhadd hamallu dal-pajjiz.
03/07/08 4:05 PM, John Schembri
Patrick , jien ma' naqbilx ma DCG li tirridikola bit-tigieg u l-poodle, nahseb mhix taghmel gid lin-nazzjonalisti,hi qlielet iktar meta ittargitjawlha t-tifel tas-Super One fl-universita .U jekk qed tahseb li hi gurnalista tal-PN SEJJER ZBALL , dik kieku kien haw partit tmur mal-Liberali. Bhalissa Daphne hija kif dejjem kienet u iktar (missewla l-binha) KONTRA FREDU , xejn iktar. Fid-daghdija ta' kitbietha gieli tat pariri siewja lil-MLP ! Issa lit-tigra missewlha t-tfal, m'hix se titlaq lil Sant minn taht difrejha qabel ma' tarah tellief.
Mur ivvota u ahsibha sewwa!
03/07/08 3:55 PM, John Schembri
Patrick , jien ma' naqbilx ma DCG li tirridikola bit-tigieg u l-poodle, nahseb mhix taghmel gid lin-nazzjonalisti,hi qlielet iktar meta ittargitjawlha t-tifel tas-Super One l-universita .U jekk qed tahseb li hi gurnalista tal-PN SEJJER ZBALL , dik kieku kien haw partit tmur mal-Liberali. Bhalissa Daphne hija kif dejjem kienet u iktar (missewla l-binha) KONTRA FREDU , xejn iktar. Fid-daghdija ta' kitbietha gieli tat pariri siewja lil-MLP ! Issa lit-tigra missewlha t-tfal u m'hix se titilqu minn taht idejha qabel ma' tara lil Sant tellief.
03/07/08 3:23 PM, patrick
jien nidhol fuq maltastar. Imma hemmek naccetta li biased tkun jekk tal labour. Immma Daphne tikteb fuq il malta 'INDEPENDENT'. U taf int li bahal gurnalist intelligenti andi nifhem li tista tkun naqra aktar opend minded u l-argumenti taghha tiftahhahom ahjar mhux attakki personali fuq sant biss. U isma jien mhux qed nghidila biex ma tiktibx fuq sant imma kien aw ta fuq xiex tikteb fuq il pn mhux xejn.
U ija insomam ghandek ragun tikteb li trid DCG. Naccettaw ta li hi issa bhala gurnalista tal PN. Forsi qed tghidli missek ilek li indunajt.
U liehor xi irrid jghid moderatur laburist am kienx ihallini kif ktibt. Mela jien jien ghid xi haga hazina . L-unika haga li ghidt li daphne patetika ghax taqa dejjem personali.
03/07/08 3:19 PM, Always keep a copy John
john Schembri
Isma' gbin , int x'jismek . PIERRE jew ETIENNE ,MALTA SCOUT jew JOE BORG ghax dak waqaf jikteb? Nahseb daqs kemm ilek tikteb taht ismijiet TFIXKILT , issa ahjar tmur torqod naqa'! Jonny the vat law is too tough for the self employed, who do not know the paper work.They became like the income tax department before PAYE was introduced . I did nt understand USUAR Yes I agree that it is too tough on the small fry.
Posted at: 2008-03-05 23:03:12
03/07/08 3:09 PM,
patrick,
biex qed tistageb man?
mhux biex niskuza ta, far from int Imma dik qatt ma kienet thobbu lil sant imbad ghamiltu 3 tijiem 24-hours kontrija u it tifel. U bhall DCG sant ghandu iktar kontrieh li se jkunu lesti ghalih meta jkun fil gvern.
Heq tidhol fuq maltastar jew tisma titfaw fuq il-one il biasedness u il hdura li jbelalwkom l-istess ta man!!
Dan wara kollox int ghazilt li dhalt fdak is-site ma telax wahdu, bhal ma jien nghazel li nafas 29 jew imur fuq maltastar.
Ghalek aw il freedom of speech my friend.
03/07/08 2:59 PM,
Siehbi li kieku fuq din il-blog kien haw moderatur laburist ma' kienx ihallik tikteb kif ktibt , ahseb u ara dcg. il-lejl it-tajjeb lil-kulhadd . Nhar it-tnejn xorta immorru ghax -xoghol. Workers work till workers die. Hekk kien jghidli Willy ta' Hal-Luqa Alla jahfirlu.
03/07/08 2:44 PM, patrick
Kemm hi patetica dik Daphne - DCG
Mort fuq il blog taghha.
Disgustanti. Ila nahseb hames snin taqlalu lil Sant. OK amel zabalji u hmerijiet.
Imma possibli am isisbx xi tghid fuq il PN. Semmi kull progett li amlu. OK tajjeb li sar gahx ha ngawduh ahna imma kull progett fih bicca hmieg.
1) sptar gdid- kull mnn bill subajh fdan lisptar qalla xeba flus u biex tkun taf din trid tkellem xi hadd li hadem hemm.
2) Bridge - bicca hmmieg tal muglett imdahhal
3) Kull triq li amlu hafna drabi giet tiswa hafna aktar - minn gawda xi kuntrattur.
4) Shabi dik id dar centrali sabih tal PN minn tahseb li qed ihallas ghalija. Intom nies. U ija zied Lm100,000 lhemm u law fuq kuntratt.
Kikeu nibqa ghadejja taqta nifsek tghid fuq il hmieg li sar.
Imma Daphne hliet lenergija taghha biex taqa personali. Mhux hekk biss ta imma anki tinsulenta lil laburisti li huma hamalli.
Qed nikteb aw ghax diga batila darbtejn fuq il blog taghha biex nghidila kemm hi tac cajt u baxxa.
Imma ovjament ma accetatx il kummenti tieghi. Halliet biss il kumplimenti ta xi erba boloh.
03/07/08 2:41 PM, WISTIN
Isma Majs mela lilna l-waiters insejtuna?Ghidilna xi haga , jewwilla ahna mhux bhalkom?
03/07/08 2:25 PM, John Schembri
Cheers Pierre , sorry , Etienne.
03/07/08 2:25 PM,
il-istra man, dan kien l iktar kument li isorprendini. Unbelievable ta vera ta.
Qed tiskuza il praspura ta sant tan '96-'98?? Nahseb anqas hadd ma ghadu jiprova issib skuzi fuq din, u hadd min tal-labour ma jrid isemija
03/07/08 2:19 PM,
imma din x mentallita hi ghaliex jiddispjacih,kullhadd ghandu mohh u ghajnejn f wiccu jien ukoll nemmen li hawn bzonn bidla
tafu ukoll li fost ragunijiet ohra , ghamel sentejn biss, ghax is sistema hazina u ma kellux siggijiet ghal proporzjon ta voti ghax kieku kellu dik ma kienx jaqa
03/07/08 2:17 PM, from Swieqi
Just finished watching the debat to see Gonzi not Alfred (sorry to my mlp friends) as I had my doubts to whome I will give my vote either PN or AD. I am saying so as I was hurt two years ago by this government, and had also went to vote AD at our local councils elections in Swieqi.(even though the elected AD candidate resigned recently)
Decided PN as I cannot gamble with my future and even more that of my family. But mostly with that of my two grand children who will be starting kinder school this coming September. God knows what will happen in the future but at least will say that I was not part of their late arrival in their future scholastic life.
03/07/08 2:06 PM, joyce
sa kemm jbqa sant qatt ma nivvotta labour -mintofjana
03/07/08 1:51 PM,
ex pn jekk int vera genwini bil kument tieghek, min nahr il-hadd wara nofs-in-nhar stess jibda jidispjacik mil ghazla tieghek.
Imbad mhux aroganza biss tara....
03/07/08 1:48 PM,
Well that is your risk ex pn.. I don't change for change's sake... Wara kollox difficli biex ittella fil gvern min ga falla wara inqas min sentejn fil poter.
03/07/08 1:43 PM, ex pn
Jidispjacini ghal Lawrence Gonzi ghax nemmen li vera ried il gid mma wisq nahseb li ma thalliex jghamel xogholu sewwa min ta madwaru. Llum waslat ghal punt li mhemmx differenza kbira bejn iz zewg manifesti , l-issue ewlenija hija l-arroganza u l korruzzjoni...we kneed a change ...
03/07/08 1:37 PM,
Jekk Eddie missier l-europa.. A Sant huwa 'Bird's Eye' ghax dak fil friza tefahha l-applikazjoni. Min jaf din in darba x'ser jghaml bil pakett defrosted??
03/07/08 1:33 PM,
ghaziez guest,
jekk mintiex wiehed mil canvasers u alura se tgawdi hafna.
Kelimni ftit xhur ahna u naraw ta!!
03/07/08 1:27 PM, Argimenti Sodi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edjfYKAPbfs
03/07/08 1:24 PM, Etienne
John Schembri,
possibli ghandek il-hin toqghod tqabbel min qal xhix. Pierre min hu? Lanqas naf lil min se jivvota. Naf li l-PN it-tieni darba infila li ppruvaw jbezzghu lin-nies biex ma jivvutawx lil AD. Insejt id-darba l-ohra l-President kemm hambaq. Din id-darba ma hemmx skuzi u l-poplu Malti se twarrab lil GonziPN u daqshekk se naraw nies bhal Austin Gatt u Ninu Zammit. Insomma, l-elezzjoni t-tajba u tlaqt niehu birra ghall-kwiet. :)
03/07/08 1:24 PM, guest
xi hlew, gonzi kellu bzonn elezzjoni ohra ha jnehhi certu nies. Bhalli kieku xi hadd zammu milli jibdilhom f'dawn is-snin.
Jien iddahquni kif xi whud minnkom tippruvaw tindotrinaw u taghlmu lil haddiehor. Ghaliex il-Maltin sa mnehirhom jaraw? Din is-superjorita li tahsbu li xi tip ta nies huma aktar intelligenti min ohrajn ma niziliex. Jien nixtieq nirringrazja lil DCG li aktar sahhitni fil-fehma tieghi lil min ser nivvotta ghada
03/07/08 1:24 PM,
in nejka tafu x inhi l-ahwa? li se jkollna nerdawh mal kumplament tal poplu ghal hames snin shah ... grazzi ghal sahbna l laburisti bhal majsi u pierre li jahsbu li jafu hafna (jew ghandhom interess li jitla l labour)
03/07/08 1:11 PM,
come on gonzi,we need u
03/07/08 1:09 PM,
it was good enough, imma il-maltin sal ponta ta mniehirom jaraw.
Ma jifmux li gonzi kellu bzon elezjoni biex inehi lil certu nies. Li kiku il labour kellhom lil xi hadd iehor minflok fredu anqas kont ninkwita tant, imma lil fredu ma tistax tafdah man.
dak li johlom bih iqum fil ghodu u jghamlu, wara nofs inhar jibdel (jew ibazwar kif jghid hu) ftit u sa fl-ghaxija ikun ghamel u-turn.
Min dejjem kien ekk, u ekk se jibqa. Dak akademiku, u jahseb li hadd ma hu inteligenti daqsu, ghalek li jghid hu biss tajjeb!!
03/07/08 1:07 PM, EX Laburist
Fil-1997 CM kien irrezenja min ministru, il-lum ghadu hemm fil-MLP.Hemm hafna bhalu.
03/07/08 1:04 PM, pessimistic
So you agree with me that its all over? And that Gonzi's recovery was not good enough? its the 10yr hitch I guess
03/07/08 12:59 PM,
halieh ha jitla lil fredu, ha jerga jdahaq ewropa bih.
Ta l-ewropa jafu li il maltin iriduwa l-ewropa u jsiru jafu kif inganhom lil maltin, biex tela fil-gvern.
Tibzaw xejn, issa nghamlu re-group u inkunu lesti ghal kull mossa falza li hu jew shabu jghamlu, l-ikbar wedda kienet in no tolerance. U ahna se naghmlu zgur li jkollu izzoma, ghanka ghal no tolerance ta misprints u computer malfunctions se inkunu atenti. Gej naqra hard time imma il-maltin mid dera ekk jitalmu
03/07/08 12:57 PM,
03/07/08 12:53 PM, pierre
sball kbir ghandek sihbi JOHN SCHE MBRI imma tist tad ltrid jiena ghalija xorta wahda.....
03/07/08 12:52 PM, Pessimistic
Qed nisma li mil HQ tal PN beda gej is shab iswed. Ok mhux se taqa id dinja li nispiccaw taht Alfred Sant imma Gonzi kien jixraqlu hafna hafna ahjar.Huwa il bniedem li ghandu direzzjoni
03/07/08 12:50 PM, John Schembri
U dak diga qbtadtu iktar l-isfel , dak ghaddej gas down ibiddel l-ismijiet , filli staqsejt lill Etienne u imbad iwiegbek bhala Pierre , ha nsibha u npoggi kollox hawn fuq.
03/07/08 12:47 PM, pierre
le sihbi ma qabduni xejn mela issa min ikun jaf storia ikunn mlp ma tridx nadlek fuq pn ukoll kemm il kapp kelkom id-dati kolha ukoll. nahseb lanqas intom ma tafu kemm il-kapp kelom u jiena andi biss29 guys
03/07/08 12:45 PM, Majsi
thanks but no thanks,
tidher li ma tridx tinduna li l-PN skadut wahda sew. Le habib, ma hiniex zghir u qed nispicca dottorat barra minn Malta. Il-PN spicca jaqdi lil'core group' tieghu u llum in-nies li kienu madwaru biex nehhew is-sikkaturi ta' Mintoff raw li ma ghadux il-partit taghhom. Hemm wisq tbazwir biex jibghu hemm. U mbaghad il-hafna kazi li semmew il-MLP huma minnhom u mhux vera tfigh ta' tajn. Ejja niehdu l-kaz tal-Voice of the Mediterranean. 'Il fuq minn miljun lira minfuqa minghajr awtorizazzjoni u spiccq biex ir-radio gie maghluq. Hemm sensiela twila wisq, mhux kaz ta' darba. Hemm wisq u wisq. Il-Gvern sar arroganti u urewna li t-taghlima tal-elezzjonijiet tal-Parlament Ewropew ma fehmix. L-ebda ministru ma gie mggieghel jirrezenja. Jien nghaddi x-xhur barra minn Malta. Fuq tazza ilma jirrezenjaw. Hawnhekk nies bhal Pullicino Orlando jilghabuha tal-eroj.
03/07/08 12:45 PM,
hawnekk aw hafna bhal pierre ta ilni insegwi hafna xinhu jigri fuq dan il blog.
Aw anka delegati min tal labour, li isimom jinbidel ghaxar darbiet kuljum.
Dawn tant kemm ghandom xjigwadanjaw taht il labour li qed jahdum bis-super overtime biex jibrainwashjaw lil kulhadd. Biex jider li il pn minoranza zghira.
Gej biz-zero tolerance sant... heq dik biss kien jonqsu ghax kull ma qal gie irubixjat min kulhad. Imma in-nies nahseb gew inganati u se jirnexilu fl-ahhar. ALLA MAGHNA
03/07/08 12:40 PM,
Prosit Good One got him. Qabduk hawn Pierre
03/07/08 12:33 PM,
mhux bili tghid li int min ta' Sliema pierre.
Meta qetilna li il labour ta il vot lin-nisa
urejt li int ilek laburist min zmien mintoff.
03/07/08 12:31 PM,
Good for you Pierre your future first and that of your family I agree with you. You vote MLP and I have to vote PN to make up for your mistake.
03/07/08 12:28 PM,
L-Investiment jekk jitlaq qumbad bye bye l-anqas jekk jerga jitilghu in-nazzjonalista ma tarax li jafdawna aktar l-ewwel u turn fuq EU qumbad nergew nghamlu u tern xejn ma nghid kulhadd irid jahseb sewwa u mhux bil-passjon imma bil-mohh. Korruzzjoni kien hem fil-passat llum u ghda wkoll imma l-investiment difficli terga ggibu
03/07/08 12:28 PM,
jitla min jitla
Fenech Adami jibqa missier malta fl ewropa.
U Gonzi il bniedem li dahlilna il ewro ferm qabel kulhad kien qed jistena.
Grazzi pn, fil kotba ta l istorja malta dejjem tibqa tafulkom. Sant jibqa dejjem imfakar ma l ewropa kollha bhala l unika bniedem li friza l-aplikazjoni ta l-ewropa.
03/07/08 12:23 PM, Lorraine
Jekk il PN ma jergawx jitilghu fil gvern jigifiri li il Maltin vera ngrati, wara dak kollox li ghamel il partit nazjonalista al malta.
Nsejtu kif konnha fi zmien il labour? ghaks u guh biss
Genna ta lart gejna, grazzi PN
03/07/08 12:22 PM, EX LABURIST
Majs Ara kemm gabru flus tal-MLP,fil zmien tal-gvern PN.
03/07/08 12:22 PM, pierre
kuku my friend... mhux qeda ima sa khun hawn slow down u mhux dr sant qala imma EU u dr gonzi ma qall xejn..
03/07/08 12:18 PM, kuku my friend
jien il bierah smajt fuq it t.v. li A.S. qed jghid li malta qeghda slow down missu jisthi aw daqs dan gid bil gvern lawrenze gonzi mela hekk jitla hu fejn se nkunu bil moda tal paroki jew tar-reapeter class.
03/07/08 12:17 PM, pierre
thanks but no thanks.je kk jiena pierre debono nad li ivotit lil pn 2003 jekk inkun ghamilt. jiena wiehed li qadd ma harist lejn kuluri imma dejjem harist lejn il-futur tieghi. iva jiena u il-mara tieghi li ghandi nadlek li ahna min tas-sliema sa nivotaw lil mlp. issa jekk ma tridx temen inti taf sihbi.pero jiena mhux gidib.
03/07/08 12:09 PM,
ha jkolli nohrog nivvvota xint tghid gonzi m ghamel xej,mela et nitilfu,irridu intuh cans mela ,4 snin mux hafna u ara kem amel hi,mela m amel xej qalbi,ahsiba sew hi ,
03/07/08 12:07 PM, thanks but no thanks
Pierre,
m hemmx ghalfejn tharref li fl 2003 ivutajt PN. Toqodx tisthi tghid li int laburist, hadd m hu perfett :) Apparti c cajt, minn kliemek tinxtamm minn 7 mili boghod li int laburist :)
03/07/08 12:07 PM,
Pierre mhabba it it tifla li ghand ta' sena jien u l-mara din id-darba sejrin nivvutaw PN (kontra qalbna)
03/07/08 12:04 PM, pierre
jiena nahseb li hawn bzon bidla qawija. jiena kont wiehed li ivotat ghal eu ghal fejn tahsbu biex ikunaw bidla. issa waslet bidla ohra iportanti li imbidlu il gvern. min ikun dejem ivotta lil istes partit mhux sa jifem qadd. ghax kull haga li jadu il- partit tieghu jemen. pero mhux dejem ikunu fis sewwa
03/07/08 11:58 AM, WISTIN
Majs hsibt li int waiter bhali ! Int iktar mohhok kif iddawwar in-nies biex jivvutaw lejber! Ma' tantx taharqek qalbek ghalina , kolla l-istess intom , tasruna u tuzawna u tinqdew bina , basta takkwistaw il-vot taghna.
03/07/08 11:58 AM, pierre
jiena nahseb li mlp se irbhu din darba tafu kemm hemm votti li ma ingabrux 5300 u dawn huma hafna minom sliema swieqi
03/07/08 11:53 AM, PIERRE
BLUE MAN jiena wiehed li nivotta kemm lil pn u kemm mlp. 2003 jiena ivottat lil pn kemm jiena u kemm il mara.din id-darba jiena u il-mara sa nivotaw lil mlp. issa inti qad viva il-liberta. lewwel nies taf min tak il vott ta 18 il- sena hi? mlp ..u taf min ta il vott lin-niesa mlp ukoll. iva pero naqbel tal pn 1987 taww iktar liberta li kena bzona hafna. li irid nad jiena huwa li kulhad hadem kief jaf huwa ghal liberta li ktiebt inti.. din qiegha history mhux opinoni.
03/07/08 11:49 AM,
j alla lgid hi
03/07/08 11:47 AM,
Ghadni gej minn barra u habib tieghi qalli li l-lghob huwa huma 50 - 50 u mhux aktar li jerhbu MLP
x'tahsbu
03/07/08 11:44 AM, bluman
i am proud wit my D.N.A is realy pure blu. imisek tisthi mangion tajar nies umani bhalek bD.N.A. u imisom iktar jisthu min se jivota il mlp. ax adkom tidru xi hdura andkom al min ma jaqbilx makom. ISTHU LABORISTI
03/07/08 11:38 AM, bluman
tafdawx il mlp ax dawk adom listes . il birah fqajna il fosos u isa se nifqu il kaxxi tal voti. viva il liberta viva il pn
03/07/08 11:36 AM, thanks but no thanks
majsi,
tahsibx li se nipprova nikkonvincik biex ma tivvotax lil fredu ghax naf li mhux se jirnexxieli :)
minn kif titkellem tidher ghadek zghir jew inkella inti bniedem innocenti. Jien nahdem go post sensittiv u nassigurak li kieku kellek tkun taf x jigri madwarek tibqa iddizgustat b nies mil partit tieghek stess ... u dan minn go l-oppozizjoni. jien taghllimt ma nirrepetix dak li jghid haddiehor imma nagixxi fuq dak li nara. jien nissugerilek taghmel listess avolja nahseb li hekk qied taghmel!
03/07/08 11:27 AM, Majsi
thanks but no thanks,
AS tilef eluf ta' voti minghand Mintoffjani li ma marrux jivvutax wara li ggieldu bejniethom. Din id-darba l-izball ohxon kien li l-PN bezzghaw wisq lin-nies li vot lil AD huwa hazin - u dan wara froga wara l-ohra fl-ambjent - golf course fix-Xaghra l-Hamra, taw permess biex tinbena r-Ramla l-Hamra u issa l-Mistra. Joe Saliba kompla ghaxxaqha jiddefendi lil Pullicino Orlando li sar qishu l-eroj. In-nies iddejjqu man, u ghalhekk il-bidla hija inevitabbli.
03/07/08 11:25 AM, Wistin
Majs , li ghidt int hu minnu , imma inqast li tghid il-verita KOLLHA ghax li m'ghadtx hu importanti. Fil-lukandi li qieghed tghid int ikun hemm in-nies tat-tmexxijja tal-partit (li forsi se tivvotalhom int) jiehdu xi breakfast ma' xi negozjant , u jghamlu l-konferenzi tan-nisa tal-partit taghhom , u jmorru jieklu xi robbu laham ma' xi baruni u ma jtukx Ewro bhala tip jew jaghmlu xi laqgha ghal kunsillieri tal-kunsilli lokali u jkun hemm nofs sala nies. Jekk trid nghidlek iktar! Nassigurak li kellimt l'min kelli nkellem liz-ZEWG NAHAT u rajt reazzjoni tajba mill-PN , u Gonzi gharaf li hemm problema u se jattakaha. Dr Sant ma' wieghedekx xejn fuqha. META TRID NURIK SA FEJN JASLU L-LEJBER . Sahhiet, li nghidlek hu li certu nies tal-lukandi jerdghu miz-zewg zejziet. Is - skiet minn naha tal-lejber ITARRXEK.Naghdrek u nifhmek ghax jien bhalek.
03/07/08 11:20 AM, thanks but no thanks
majsi,
jigvernax tajjeb jew hazin AS mhux ha nghidlek jien jew tghidli int, imma jghiduh dawk l 10 ELF vot li emmnu f AS fin 1996 u kienu iddazupuntati sentejn wara bil politika u stil tieghu
imma ma kellux cans hux miskin dak in nhar ... forsi kieku tawh sentejn ohra kien jerga jakkwisthom dawk 10 ELF vot b xi bravura minn tieghu ...
03/07/08 11:06 AM, Majsi
thanks but no thanks,
il-poplu jivvota mhux biex ibiddel il-partiti biss imma biex inaddaf hu l-ghanqbut li jkun qabad sew. Gonzi ma rnexxilux u ghalhekk nhar it-Tnejn se jkollna gvern gdid laburista.
Ma nistghux inkunu aghar minn issa. Jidhqu bil-Labour minhabba r-reception class imma bil-PN gejna l-ahhar minn 27 pajjiz fl-UE fl-edukazzjoni. U l-ahhar fil-qari u l-ghola fl-illiterizmu. How's that for a record!
03/07/08 10:47 AM, Thanks & you will have my vote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zi_Z5GqZh4
03/07/08 10:37 AM, thanks but no thanks
OK Dr Sant, skoprejt li tezisti il korruzzjoni... prosit. Milli nista nifhem, hafna lesti li kuntenti li din tkompli ... imbasta taht gvern iehor ... big deal
Issa, apparti minn dan il fatt tassew ecitanti li hafna qishom veru looking forward biex jesperjenzaw, tista tighdli kif fl affarijiet lohra se tkunu AHJAR minn dan il gvern? Jien inhoss li 99%, fl affarijiet l-ohra se tkunu AGHAR ... allura nibqa kif jien ... thanks but no thanks
03/07/08 10:34 AM,
to the poor brainwashed
- u jekk intom studenti, veru ahna t-taxpayers flusna qeghdin jintremew. Nahseb bhux reception class ghandna bzonn (jew repeater class kif tghidulha intom taz-zecchino d'oro) izda inhallukom xi tlett snin repeaters ghalix veru gdur (allavolja inhobb nikolhom).
Insomma, jien se nahallikom ghaliex sejjer nara film babaw
Paceville jismu "There will be blood" u wara ghandi ikla.
Ciao u j'ALLa r-rebbieh jiccelebra bhan-nies u jaccettaw l-opinjoni ta' kullhadd. Wara kollox, Scam, ghalkemm ghajjartna chicken, taf nigi huk jew minnek u ma tafx.
03/07/08 10:30 AM, Majsi
Ikun hawn hafna gid? Mela smajt lil GonziPN biss? Mur ara kemm hawn nies jahdmu fil-lukandi jahdmu biss bil-part time bla drittijiet ta' sick leave, annual leave u ma jhaddhumhomx aktar minn 40 siegha ghaliex inkella jkollhom jigu tal-post.
Dak xoghol tghidlu? Li tkun b'manara fuq rasek kull gimgha u ma tistax titkellem ghaliex tispicca mwaqqaf. Time for a change, sieheb.
03/07/08 10:30 AM, To scam
Ara naqa' dal-pajjiz. Ara jien x'ala il-maus mid-DNA. Jien la jien MLP u qas PN. Lejliet l-elezzjoni niddeciedi. Issa ha tigi toqoghd tghidli bid-DNA. Ara jien x'ala biebi.
Tghid nofs ta' kelma, taqla it-tiri haw minn kullimkien.
03/07/08 10:26 AM, scam
have fun spamming each other I'm out of here....
I'm happy to have a different dna than yours, I am not a chicken and face criticism
03/07/08 10:25 AM, To scam
Qedd nghidlek man, jien issa dhalt, plus li hekk di l-ewwel darba li dhalt f'dis-site.
Issa jekk ma temminx, your business. Xi tridni naghmillek.
03/07/08 10:23 AM, XE LABURIST
Prosit JC.
Bil-PN fil-gvern Ikun hawn hafna xoghol u gid.
03/07/08 10:22 AM, To scam
Spammer?? Why spammer??
Mela haw ma tistax tghid x'tahseb issa??
Qaddisa man. Titkazaw bil-laburisti li mhumiex tolleranti imbagahd ara x'tiehu.
03/07/08 10:22 AM, scam
now you know what you are going to say with another nick, pretending to be someone else.
That because of my arrogance I will not vot for PN.
Such a wild guess....
03/07/08 10:20 AM, scam
yes yes of course spammer.
03/07/08 10:19 AM, To scam
Piss off??
Jien issa ghadni kemm dhalt ta, xghilt il-pc hames minuti ilu.
Ara naqa ma tista tghid xejn, ghax jaqbzu fuqek.
03/07/08 10:17 AM, guest
gonzi dejem hadem al gid tal-pajjiz u f'dawn lahar erba snin ghamel hafna progetti f'kull qasam u jek nhar t-tnejn jibqa hu fil-gvern malta ha taghmel progress kbir ghax l-gid ta l-Eu issa gej
03/07/08 10:17 AM, scam
Wara hafna hsieb, ha jkolli nohrog nivvota piss off man. I don't believe you
everytime the discussion turns againt labour you come up with this.
You are what is called a spammer.
People who have been debating here know what I'm talking about spammer
03/07/08 10:12 AM, Wara hafna hsieb, ha jkolli nohrog nivvota
Jien ma kontx se nohrog nivvota, imma iddecidejt, wara hafna hsieb, li ha nohrog nivvota.
Haw hafna nies qedd jghidu li il-korruzzjoni qeghda kulimkien. Agreed 100%.
Pero id-differenza hi li barra ez: l-amerika, l-issues li jikkorompu ruhhom fuqhom hafna drabi jkunu intangibli u cikku il-poplu hafna drabi la jkun jintlaqat u aqas jinteressah.
Haw Malta, on the other hand, il-koruzzjoni potenzjalemnt, tidhol f'kull haga li jaghmel il-gvern, toroq, katusi tad-dranagg, pontijiet, imsomma kollox.
Issa Gonzi, lili qatt ma jista' jikkonvinci li jekk jkun hemm hu ha jgibha genna ta l-art l-Malta, ghax jekk toqoghod tahseb, l-oppost ta' "performance" hija "korruzjoni".
Inti qatt ma tista taspira li l-affarjiet jsiru sew jekk jkollok is-sharks tahtek mohhhom biex jieklu dak kollu li jigi quddiemhom.
Issa Gonzi, in-nies bhali qedd jipprova jghidilhom (ghax jaf li in-nies bhali ghandu bzonn biex jirbah), "Please tini cans iehor". Bir-rispett kollu Gonz, kellek erba snin. Kellek hin bizzejjed u kemm trid.
Issa, tigi tghidli allura AS mhux l-istess ha jkun. Forsi vera, imma allura, might aswell taghti cans l xi hadd iehor.
03/07/08 10:11 AM, scam
I agree with your last comment maltesescout.
But besides the ineffiency in governance. A sant had nothing else to criticise.
Because all moves by a government led by gonzi, where all in the national interests. It takes balls to just jump in offence and bring in the surcharge but that is what was needed.
Then everything regarding policies said by sant during gonzi's 4 years proved to have been wrong:
Don't introduce euro now, devalue the lira before, not believing and still not believeing that deficit is going down, calling the new hospital tal qroq like to put it down, and many many more
03/07/08 10:09 AM, jc
to maltesescount,
l mlp fil gerv ma niftakrux ima mili nisma lewel haga li ghamel qata l istupendji u ghola t-taxa...kiku kelu vizjoni cara ma kinx jaqa wara 22 months xtahseb??
03/07/08 10:07 AM, jc
ha najdlek fejn hu l gideb ta sant. lewel qal li r resits ha jsiru fnovembru meta t-timetable ila li harget fuq sena,mbad qal li ha jalaq l matab meta ga hi maluqa,qal li ha jalaq lingeneratur ta awdex meta hu ga maluq...imbad jejd li kelu misprint mela dan fejn qed jejx
03/07/08 10:04 AM, Maltesescout
Guest,
Trid tifhem illi kull partit, meta jkun fil-Gvern, jaghmel hekk. Mur lura fl-istorja u tara kif il-PN (meta kien fl-oppozizzjoni) kien prattikament jaghmel u jghid dak li l-MLP qed jghidu llum. L-issues li qed iqajjem l-MLP llum....EZATT. U l-MLP fil-gvern (jekk tiftakru hehe) kien jitkellem biss fuq xoghol, investiment etc...
Meta tkun fil-Gvern ikollok vizjoni hafna iktar cara (tkun all hands on deck)ukoll filwaqt li mill-oppozizzjoni huwa difficli. Madanakollu tifhem li jekk certu issues ma tqajjimhomx l-oppozizzjoni, ma jqajjimhom hadd.
03/07/08 10:03 AM,
to JC,
tghajjar jekk ma ggibx fatti, izda Alfred Sant meta jallega dejjem ikollu l-fatti u jurihom, u ibqa cert li taf ikollu ohrajn u jikxifom meta jigi l-waqt. Lil Alfred Sant jistghu jghajjruh minn kollox minbarra li hu korrott.Dan il-bniedem u wiehed mill-unici li jista' jaghmel minn kollox biex jeqred il-korruzzjoni ghaliex hu ma jinxtara b'xejn.
Gonzi ghandu l-kwalitajiet tajbin ukoll m'ghandiex dubju, izda ma jistax jsib tarf lil ta madwaru.
F'din l-elezzjoni min inqabdu jigdbu u bil-fatti??
03/07/08 10:02 AM, sf
May I ask why did Gonzi made a deal that he will change his cabinet? Where where they during the campain?
If every thing was going so well as they are trying to make us believe why is he changing them.
If your making some thing good keep doing it,don't you agree
03/07/08 9:52 AM, jc
maltesescout,jien nisma z-zewg stazzjonijit.l-birah smajt z-zewg meatings u d-diferenza tara.wihed hsibu biex jajar u l-ihor fil-futur tal-pajjiz.ma nafx sant min fejn ha jgib x-xoghol ghax anke smart city kontrija
03/07/08 9:49 AM, Maltesescout
Jc....all leaders have spoken on job creation. Now if you put your radio on 101, all day long you certainly cannot expect to listen to Dr Sant, Dr Muscat or Dr Vassallo eh *lol*
03/07/08 9:47 AM, guest
maltesescout,
isma tajjeb liz-zewg partita u vera tinota li qal jc
gonzi dejem mohhu fix xoghol u flinvestiment f'ledukazzjoni.ghandu vizzjoni cara ghal-futur u jaf min fejn ha jgib x-xoghol
sant dejem jghid li ha jzid t-turizmu ima kif alla jbirek qat ma jejd...hemm diferenza bejn l-klim u l-fatti...
sant
03/07/08 9:43 AM, jc
maltesescout,that's the main point...only pn can achieve that.if you hear carefully both leaders talking, you will hear gonzi talking about jobs and new investments while a.sant only talks about the corruption of the pn. he has no vision for the future
03/07/08 9:42 AM, jc
maltesescout,that's the main point...only pn can achieve that.if you hear carefully both leaders talking, you will hear gonzi talking about jobs and new investments while a.sant only talks about the corruption of the pn. he has no vision for the future
03/07/08 9:37 AM, Maltesescout
Jc.... Unfortunately that may be what you were lead to believe. i.e. that only the PN will offer that possibility. I can well assure you that all political parties have job creation as their main priority. Whether they are capable of achieving that is another issue.
03/07/08 9:30 AM, jc
maltesescout, i'm telling the truth.i'm still a student and the only thing that matters to me is that when i finish school i can find a job.only the pn is offering this possibility
03/07/08 9:26 AM,
Qieghed ninnota li fit-12 il-distrett ma ngabrux kwazi 1000 elf, izda dan id-distrett huwa l-uniku wiehed li ghandu l-inqas votanti. Fiha x'tomghod din!!! PN please note. Mistra is getting at you!!!!!
03/07/08 9:25 AM, guest
no colours, vera li hames snin ohra xorta trid thalas it-taxxi u tmur ghax-xoghol...ima x'differenza thallas t-taxxi u lura tircivi investiment milli ma tircivi xejn
03/07/08 9:23 AM, Maltesescout
Jc please...
we have kept this discussion clean till now. Let's dicuss sensibly.
03/07/08 9:21 AM, No Colours
Soemeone was offended by my earlier comment of 'flag waving idiots'. Poor sods! Has anyone out there heard about 'One World Order' were we are all being controlled by a handful of the world's few elite. Same for Malta. One party promises a bright future so long corruption is king and the other promises something that is only a pie in the sky with the same corruption. But people still vote in their mojority for both these political monsters. And why is it so may I ask? Cause they do not know what they are voting for although most justify they do.
See you all back at work on Monday....ooops sorry Tuesday cause too dangerous to be roaming the streets with a bunch of drunken loonies celebrating the next 5 years of whatever one wants to call it or worst still get shoot at by some irritated hunter crying over his stupid passion of stuffed death. And by the way we tax payers will be paying for the lost workday on Monday whether we like it or not. Viva Malta tal-Maltin..... ooops misprint (very recent catch word) should read Viva Malta tal-ftit.
An for the question to where I will be after the next 5 years..... well working as a matter of fact and still paying taxes for the mistakes of my fellow citizens and not the politicians. After all it is you the majority voter who will put them there.
03/07/08 9:18 AM, jc
guest ghandek ragun ax l MLP hlief tajir ma tisimghux jghid. hlief r reseption class ma jridx jamel.irid itelef l' ulidna sena skola
03/07/08 9:13 AM, Maltesescout
ERRATA CORRIGE
Guest,
Fit-2003:
Eligible Voters kienu 294,106
2008: huma 315,414
Fit 2003 ma ngabrux 2377 minn 294,106
Allura din is-sena kieku bqajna bl-istess rata ma kellhom jingabru 2549 u mhux 5266.
Ghallinqas qed nikkwota l-figuri mit-Times online.
03/07/08 9:13 AM, scam
dear guest,
I wish you were right, but those who didn't get their vote is also an indication on those who have their vote and will not go and vote.
03/07/08 9:09 AM, Maltesescout
Guest,
Fit-2003:
Eligible Voters kienu 294,106
2008: huma 315,414
Fit 2003 ma ngabrux 2549 minn 294,106
Allura din is-sena kieku bqajna bl-istess rata ma kellhom jingabru 2549 u mhux 5266.
Ghallinqas qed nikkwota l-figuri mit-Times online.
03/07/08 9:00 AM, John Schembri
To Scam , ghalek ma' joghogobnix Dr Alfred Sant Ghax ala l-maus minn KULLHADD. Gie jaqa w jqum minna fuq l-Ewropa ghax gie jitmellah minn KULLHADD , gie jitmellah mill-VAT u ma' jiddejjaq minn xejn u minn hadd bl-Ingliz RUTHLESS
03/07/08 8:59 AM, guest
ima din l-elezzjoni n-numru ta nis li jistghu jivutaw zdidu b'ghaxar t'elef so...fl-istes bahar qedin
03/07/08 8:56 AM, Maltesescout
DZ....
Nahseb li ghamilt il-kalkoli hazin siehbi. Bir-rata tat-2003, suppost ma kellhomx jingabru xi 2,600 u mhux 5,266.
03/07/08 8:49 AM, guest
veru l mn naha tal pn dejem gonzi tkelem ima xjiswa li tkelmu l ministri ta l mlp jk hlif tajir ma qalux...ma tismax kelma wahda fuq xbehsibom jamlu jek jitilew...dejem jirepetu listes klim
03/07/08 8:43 AM, Majsi
Imma tkun kbira li wiehed ma jivvutax lil Labour ghaliex ma hax telephone 25 sena ilu!
Il-votanti ghandu jahsbu fuq il-prattika kurrenti tal-politika. Jekk jahsbu li l-Gvern kurrenti ghajja mill-idejat u maqtugh min-nies, allura tigi l-bidla. Jekk jahsbu li z-zewg partit l-kbar ghandhom l-ghandbuta, allura jivvutaw lil AD.
Inkella jekk iridu jivvutaw b'qalbhom u mhux b'mohhhom u jaghmlu hames snin jaraw l-ingustizzji bejn min hu fl-ghanqbuta u min le, imbaghad ikollhom joqoghdu jsofru bil-kwiet fis-silenzju ta' mohhom u jibilghu l-valium 500g.
03/07/08 8:38 AM, scam
to scam,
I doubt anything will change, But we will see, hope you are right. Because now with this promise AS as from next monday will have to be on his toes...
03/07/08 8:28 AM, To Scam
Di tal-koruzzjoni haga wahda mhux qedd nsemmu.
Id-differenza bejn AS u LG fil-personalita'
Huwa hafna izjed facli jigieled il-koruzzjoni AS ghax hu, jekk tafuh, hu it-tip ta' persuna li ma jorbot ruhu ma' hadd (apparti it-tifla tieghu) u li jkollu jaghmlu, jaqbad u jaghmlu u jigi ala il-maus minn kulhadd.
Plus li hekk, kemm il-darba jghidha lil-shabu, jekk tafgu, taqbzu il-barra. Nahseb qalha 5 darbiet d'saw il-hames gimghat.
03/07/08 8:20 AM, To Scam
Scam,
Your argument is true. But it also depends on the type of government. Malta employs a parliamentary republic.
So candidates are of fundamental importance.
Besides large foreign parliamentary republics will have typically 700 to 800 seats. So it is a bit of a tedious task to expose all of them.
Having said this, take Italy for example, it is also a parliamentary republic, almost all candidates from all parties expose themselves on tv some time or another.
03/07/08 8:19 AM, scam
john,
these so called barons exist everywhere, even more in the cleanest of countries.
But unlike us, other countries, or at least developed ones, don't give so much importance to their politics.
We not only let them remain kings of their castles, but fight each other only to advantage them more.
I don't want to mean that anyone can fix this, I wana make some observations.
03/07/08 8:14 AM,
Saviour tell us something about the thriving network of the freemasons in MALTA?
03/07/08 8:11 AM, Dz
din id darba hemm hafna iktar nies jivvutaw minn 2003. Dak iz zmien ma ngabrux 2150 votes. jekk taghmel il kalkoli sew,bl ammont ta nies li ha jivutaw issa, listess ghadna. Fl'istess hin, minn ta sliema u swieqi ingabru iktar voti din is sena milli fit 2003. These are all facts people.
03/07/08 8:09 AM, John Schembri
Hey Scam , I like the way you think ,but please do not be a defeatist, corruption can be seen everywhere in the world , with Malta being no exception ,there were even popes who were corrupt , the point is that there should be more checks and balances in our systems. Even the whistle blower act can be misused.I will give you an example , person A is involved in corruption with authority chairperson B , A threatens that he will spill the beans if not given so much money from B . B surrenders to the threats of A. Conclusion : more corruption. So we have to be specific about this mother of all solutions, one of them should be that only those who are not involved in corruption should avail themselves from this proposed law.Prime Ministers should never get involved in investigating as EFA once did, leave investigations to investigators. Politicians when they get involved in such things only can make matters even worse, separation of powers is very important for a democracy.
03/07/08 8:07 AM, scam
scout, what i meant is that the masters will continue to take advantages from whoever is in government.
So the ghanqbuta theory you mention, only applies to the small and to a certain extent irrelevant cases. Whilst the big scandals that no one hears about, remain hidden.
03/07/08 7:54 AM, Maltesescout
Scam,
Nobody is saying that politicians are corrupt (at least most of them aren't). What GET REAL and myself have been talking about was the system..the bureaucracy...the establishment itself. But ultimately who is responsible to see that this does not happen? It's the politicians.
03/07/08 7:43 AM, scam
I am sorry for using this expression by I think some of you live in space.
Most of the corruption is not done in favour of politicians, but in favour of those people who own the island.
They sponsor both parties and have good relations with both. AD is not just imagining things, it is spot on on these facts.
So now with the change in government those who get a favour here and there will be changed, but those who own the half-million euro yachts taht we will soon start seeing again will continue to blossom.
I say poor the majority, including myself for letting myself getting carried away in these two weeks that come every 4-5 years.
The masters who own our country and their extended families must have quite a good laugh at us.
03/07/08 7:25 AM, Maltesescout
Get Real,
Naqbel mieghek parzjalment. Veru li l-korruzzjoni kienet, ghada u tibqa. U anke illi nistghu nehilsu minn wahda u ghada jista' jkun hemm ohra. Izda meta l-korruzzjoni jew il-percezzjoni taghha tkun lahqet livell li tohnoq dak kollu li gvern ikun qed jaghmel .. imbaghad ikun hemm bzonn alternanza fil-Gvern......Dan kollu sakemm eventwalment terga tinbet ghanqbuta ohra li normalment tiehu ghaxar snin biex tibda taghmel il-hsara sew.
Ma jistax ikun hemm tkattir tal-gid li JINHASS jekk ikun hemm livell kbir jew "perception" ta' corrupt practices f'pajjiz.
03/07/08 7:13 AM, Get Real
L-ahwa,
Qedin inparlaw fuq korruzzjoni u JPO etc u qisu Alfred Sant sab is solzzjoni ta din il problema. Guys, il-korruzzjoni hija fenomenu prezenti f kull civilta, prezenti u tal-passat. U fil waqt li huwa fenomenu inaccettabli, l-lebda filosfu u wisq inqas Alfred Sant ma sab jew jista jipprovdi is soluzzjoni ghal din il problema. Li qed nipprova nghid hu, li issa hemm livell ta korruzzjoni taht Gonzi u ghada, jkollna livell ta koruzzjoni taht Sant - jekk jitla. Is soluzzjoni temporanja hi li jinbidel il gvern, biex tinqered l ghanqbuta stabilita prezenti u nikkuntentaw b ghanqbuta gdida.
PERO, ghanqbuta b ghanqbuta, il prijoritajiet ghandhom ikunu ohrajn, primarjament kemm il politka ta min jigverna hi kapaci tikreha gid. U fil fehma tieghi, iz zewg partiti ghadhom filosofija differenti ta dan il kuncett ...
03/07/08 7:03 AM,
le siehbi mhux nofs Malta hmir, dawk msieken m'huma jik(g)dbu xejn. Jiena qed nalludi ghal min ghandu mdeffsa fir-ramel.
Viva JPO!!!!!!
Viva min ha l-mahfriet presidenzjali ghalxejn!!!!!!!!!
03/07/08 7:00 AM, Zejtuni
Aqtghuha ah... illum suppost ma jinkitibx fuq politika.
Kulhadd jimedita...
03/07/08 6:56 AM, Jake
Nies ejjaa ma nibdew nitfghu il percentaggi fil vojttttt l ewwle haga sur Cahrles 0.5 % al AN humaa ftit wisqqq it-tieni din il haga l ithgidu li PN mdeqjin taht gonzi mhux veru ta u t-tilet haga jin naf hafna nies wkoll mlp (forsi mhux daqs pn) li se jaqilbu il vot al pn (l ewwel wahda ommi) jew li mhxu sej ivvutaw sooooo guysss tibdewss tifirhu
03/07/08 6:55 AM, Qormi
Sur John..
mhux ghal xi haga ta imma ma nafx ghala dal- panic kollu ghax hemm tidher dik it- tfajla qas li kienet gharwina.
Nahseb tant m' ghandkomx ma xiex taqbdu li qed tippruvaw idduru mal- lewza imma ghalxejn ta ghax in- nies mhux cuc.
Mela issa bl- istess mod nghidu li ta GonziPN inqeda b'dawk il- grupp ta tfal li kellu fuq il- billboard xi 3 gimghar ilu u b'dawk iz- zghazagh li ghandu bhalissa.
Man, skuzani nghidlek imma qed tparla vojt u mghidt xejn bis sens.
Ta l-inqas Sant itihom cans jitkellmu lil kandidati tieghu mhux bhal Gonzi f'kampanja elettorali shiha hlief hu ma dehrx jippritka....eh bilhaqq imma fmument minnhom gabu lil JPO imma mhux jippritka jimsah ghajnejh.
U jekk mohhok daqshekk tajjeb li qed tiftakar il- billboards ta 5 snin ilu missek tiftakru dak li Sant deher mal- kandidati kollha tieghu ukoll...jew li jaqbel ghal- mohhok biss tiftakar int??
03/07/08 6:53 AM, John Schembri
Spiteri tiehux ghal-minn jghidlek elf , jien ta' l-opinjoni opposta imma nahseb li hekk jahsbu fuqi. Hawnekk trid toqoghod naqra ghal-kollox, heqq, xi trid taghmel ? Issa ha nigbidlek naqa saqajk jien , "la qabduk , qabduk!" niccajtaw ftit.
03/07/08 6:53 AM,
se jkun em hmir mele sehbi. nofs malta!
03/07/08 6:48 AM,
Umel hekk mela!!!! marridux hmir maghna!!!!!!!!
03/07/08 6:45 AM, John Schembri
Tal-voti li ma' ngabbrux minn certu distretti hija favur il-Labour, nahseb jien, u il-kalkoli huma hafna qrib kif qed jghid Charles jien se nibqa nghid li fihom taqtigha sa l-ahhar.Lil Ad tefaghthom lura ta' Harry li ma'qalx kollox fuq il-presidential pardon minn qabel.
03/07/08 6:41 AM,
biex nghojdlok ekk ser namel.
bekk id-distak ilun ta' 19999 minflok 20000
03/07/08 6:39 AM, Spiteri
Qisna hadniha drawwa din li nghajru lin- nies elves issa daqs ta tfih tat- tajn giet komuni li qeda fhalq kullhadd. Nahseb kulhadd minghalih li hu xi gharef hawnhekk u flok jilhaq salibu u jara xse jaghmel bhajtu jintefa jghajjar lil min ma jaqbilx mieghu.
03/07/08 6:39 AM, Censu z-zabbari
mele mux b'oxrin elf kellne nadduwom lil tal-pe enne?
:)
hawadtuni to
03/07/08 6:38 AM, John Schembri
Dan x'ligifieri , il-Partit tal-Haddiema spicca bil-Kartelluni tat-tfajliet sexy , biex forsi jigbor erbgha voti fil-jum dedikat ghal-MARA ? Il-Labour mhux lil Dr Sant ghandhom leader , jew qieghdin jisthu juruhulna?Il-PN urewna dejjem lil Gonzi (u hbew il-ministri,hekk jikkritikawhom tal-Labour) , stennejt bhala kartellun wicc Sant jidhaqli ma' shabu ta' new Labour .Bl-istess ragunar nghid li l-labour mhux talli ma' wrewniex wicc wiehed minn taghhom imma isservew bis-sbuhija ta' tfajla f'jum il-mara. Iwa Gejsin l-anqas din ma; gietkhom f'raskhom !
Niftakar fi zmien Eddie lil Sant jidher wahdu bhala l-ahhar kartellun u lil eddie bil-Kandidati kollha.
03/07/08 6:35 AM,
Ha nghidlek siehbi, jekk int favur il-qerda tal-Mistra u trid tghin biex titharbat ghall-gwadann tal-ftit, ive, mur ivvota PN. Il-vot tieghek u hadd m'hu se jkun mieghek meta tmur tivvota. Il-PN (li jien ivvutajt darba ghalihom u ma jiddespjiaciniex) illum ghandhom bzonn jitnaddfu - u mbaghad darba ohra naraw.
03/07/08 6:29 AM,
Se geluni nohrog nivota elves! alinqas hekk ikolom wihed iktar tal-pn.
03/07/08 6:19 AM, MSJ
Anke uliedi u l-irgiel u n-nisa taghhom se jivvutaw ghall-ewwel darba lil MLP, ghaliex kienu ghal kollox favur l-EU, mhux iddaspjacuti li vvutaw ghall-EU, izda jemmnu li l-MLP aktar huwa 'fighter' ghal Malta, u jaraw li l-PN huwa maghmul minn hafna 'YES MEN'. Jiena ferhan ghax il-bierah, ghall-ewwel darba marru l-Mass Meeting u hadu pjacir anke b'JABA. Fl-ahhar irnexxieli nipperswadihom!!!!!!
03/07/08 6:17 AM, Maltesescout
Sorry Charles,
According to my calculations, it's 50.3%
03/07/08 6:10 AM, PIERRE
tafu kemm ma ingabru'x votti 5.200 vott. jiena gbartu u sa nivotta lil mlp ghal lewwe darba. 2003 jiena ivottat lil pn din id-darba no way
03/07/08 6:09 AM, Charles
Hey Guys - It is all over bar the shouting! MLP 50.5%, GonziPN 47%, AD 2% and AN 0.5%.
Remember the above numbers and respond to me on Sunday afternoon.
03/07/08 6:07 AM, MSJ
Ghal voti li ma ngabrux veru li l-aktar huma f'dawk id-distretti maghrufa tal-PN. Kif qalli habib sew tieghi, dan huwa nkwetanti hafna ghal PN ghax juri li in-nies ta' dawk in-nahiet huma mdejjqin hafna bis-sitwazzjoni. Specjalment ta' tas-Sliema ghaliex giet qisha 'concrete jungle', la nifs ma tista tiehu u l-anqas jaraw ix-xemx. U dan kollu biex jitpaxxew erbgha min-nies spekulaturi.
Issa taf x'jonqoshom il-PN, li hafna minn dawk li gabru l-vot jivvotaw lil AD jew ihassru l-vot..
Insomma, tort tal-PN ghaliex ha lin-nies 'for granted'. Imma n-nies illum m'humiex boloh. Naf x'qieghed nghid!!!!
03/07/08 6:07 AM, PIERRE
03/07/08 6:02 AM, Maltesescout
Dear Scam,
Indeed Gonzi was the PN's best asset but wasn't he himself who boasted about the record of his MP's? He really shouldn't have emphasised that I suppose (or the strategists shoudln't have allowed him to say it). The MLP amplified that to the full. The strategy of the PN was to expose Gonzi and attack Sant hoping that the MLP would fall for that. Instead, the MLP did not retaliate to this at all. It went on the attack and the PN ended up trying to defend the indefencible.
Scam, elections should not be won on strategies although they DO have weight.
03/07/08 5:51 AM,
xi TGHIDU GHAL VOTI LI MA NGABRUX., jiDER BIC CAR LI IL VOTI BL AMMMONT SOSTANZJALI MA NGABRUX HUMA FEJN HEMM MAGGORANZA TA pN. xI TGHIDU FUQ DAN PEOPLE.
03/07/08 5:46 AM, MSJ
Scenario 1.
PN are elected with JPO as one of the elected. Say the Mistra alleged scandal goes against JPO, what will happen to the PN and what will Gonzi do?
Scenario 2.
MLP are elected and also the PN have JPO as one of the elected, and again the alleged Mistra scandal goes against JPO, what happens then?
Scenario 3.
JPO may not be elected, and the PN will thank God for that.
03/07/08 5:45 AM, scam
Sorry sorry, I amde a mistake
to spiteri,
My last sentence was refered to LINO spiteri.
And again you keep proving, how much you don't understand politics.
There is alot of PR involved and the PN spin doctors must have thought that exposing Gonzi would be the best strategy.
This is modern politics. May I ask if you ever follow foreign politics??
I am a big follower of foreign politics and that is how parties abroad PR their parties. In some countries you barely get to know who the candidates are!!
03/07/08 5:42 AM, spiteri
My last sentence was refered to LINO spiteri.
And again you keep proving, how much you don't understand politics.
There is alot of PR involved and the PN spin doctors must have thought that exposing Gonzi would be the best strategy.
This is modern politics. May I ask if you ever follow foreign politics??
I am a big follower of foreign politics and that is how parties abroad PR their parties. In some countries you barely get to know who the candidates are!!
03/07/08 5:40 AM,
Problemi ghandkom ta Gonzi PN bil voti li ma ngabrux ta ax minn nahat taghkm not collected l izjed.
03/07/08 5:35 AM, Spiteri
Dear Scam,
I am not a PN fan i can assure you and thanks for making it clear to everyone, cause I am proud of it.
But from the other way I can still assume the same for you. And please don't waste your time trying to give me your idea on how the politics work. Just one thing I am sure about, that you didn't answer me on what I asked...basta you critised A.Sant and his politics.
03/07/08 5:32 AM, Maltesescout
Dear Scam,
Regarding your message saying "I agree scout. We are very similar in our thinking but just vary in who we think can deliver most.", I cannot but agree 100%. And this is how debate should take place in modern times. This is what Dr Gonzi had in mind I think but unfortunately he was let down by some of his MP's. To add it all up then....the PN's big chunk of the campaign was directed at demonising Dr Sant...once again. A shame and disappointment I would say.
03/07/08 5:06 AM, scam
I agree scout. We are very similar in our thinking but just vary in who we think can deliver most.
Dear spiteri, with all respects you have no idea how politics work.
The candidates have little say to what is proposed. It is the experts that are away from the public eye that propose things, and then the leaders of the parties decide for what to go for.
And it seems, I repeat it seems, that A. Sant doesn't give too much weight to the experts. That is why I said the brains left. Because they were seeing this and left, and L.spiteri said this clearly in his book. Now we all know that spiteri is no pn fan.
03/07/08 5:06 AM, MalteseFalcon
It is healthy for a democracy to change powers after 20 years. The PN unfortunately need to be revamped from the inside and personnel needs to be changed. Even the MLP has to change some faces in the meantime.
The tactics employed by the PN this past week have not impressed me at all. It looked like a party desperate to hold on to power seeing that indications from the Maltese populace are pointing towards a change in government. I also wish that a 3rd party will also get a seat. However, I doubt that we have reached a stage yet where that is possible. I expect a good rise of votes though for the AD.
03/07/08 5:05 AM,
Tomorrow it is Women's day ---
If it wasn't for the MLP women would not be voting tommorrow as the PN voted against this bill for women were considered only good in the kitchen.
We would not be enjoying the bonus, the children's allowance, a wage increase which is given the same to everyone because the PN again voted against, and you know why, because the factories will close their doors.
We would'nt be enjoying four weeks of annual holidays , (Remember that the PN again took away from us between 4& 6 annual holidays)
Our children would have been barred from entering the University because the University was only for the elite and they would never mix with the workers' children.
That is why some of the elite still hate and poison others against the MLP.
Grow up and do not let others poison your mind and brainwash. They are the only gainers, and you are being used.
03/07/08 5:04 AM, SOL
Dear all. I have read your comments, I liked the one that said 'with in a week we will back to normal grumbling again who ever wins the election' And I fully agree. LOL. My opinion is that PN have good ideas for the future but all the corruption revealed lately and DR Harry Vassallo being arested 2 days before the election , did a lot of harm. MLP will win the Elections. What do you all think?
03/07/08 4:59 AM, Spiteri
Dear Scam,
Ghallinqas jekk forsi Sant, kif qed tghid int bghat lil ahjar nies li kellu barra min Malta, sinjal li ried li jkun hemm nies kapaci li jitkellmu ghal pajjizna.
U haga ohra, jekk Sant huwa l- MLP xsuppost tghid ghal Gonzi li anke l- isem tal- partit biddel u gabu GonziPN. Ghadek qatt ma ftaht ghajnejk sew ha tirrejalizza kemm dan il- bniedem ma jinteressah min hadd iktar. Anke il- billboards jixhdu dan, ghax il- kummenti kollha li Gonzi se jaghmel hekk jew hekk, u mhux li il- PN se jaghmillom l- affarijiet.
Anke fil- meetings kieku qatt rajt xi ministru jitkellem, le hu biss, basta jtella il- mara mieghu fuq il- palk. As if qisu irid ifisser xi haga biha hux hekk?
Ara naqra min irid jinsilwa ta....
03/07/08 4:36 AM, maltesescout
Dear Scam,
Re Mintoff I completely agree with you.
re what Dr Gonzi did is also acknowledged. However, you may wish to remember that the 1998's MLP's defeat was essentialy due to Sant's hasty decision to try to put things in order too fast by increasing rates etc.... But aren't the further increase of tax bands (though not specifically mentioned in the Budget)and the Children's allowances popular policies then too?
I believe that for a party to be re-elected it needs sound policies but also some popular ones. It is against my personal principles but of course we are are living on mother earth.
03/07/08 4:23 AM,
03/07/08 4:21 AM, scam
and I agree with you, mintoff did alot of good to the country, I think that if he resigned as leader in the mid-80's or maybe beging of 80's he would have been the best leader to date.
But let me tell you that Gonzi, had the option to put the finance in order in a much longer period. But as I said he saw long-term goals more important than popular wining policies.
A fact that sant wouldn't have done, since he said it was too early and he has a track record of implementing or proposing popular policies.
03/07/08 4:20 AM, maltesescout
Dear Scam,
The lesson was learnt in 1998 don't worry...believe you me.
03/07/08 4:16 AM, maltesescout
Dear Scam,
I didn't avoid it and in fact I agree. Why? So do you think that I am who agrees with all that Sant says? Certainly not. I just wanted to highlight that i) Euro was a pre-requisite and ii) that Dr Gonzi had no way but to put his (or our?) house in order because his predecessors had brought the country to it's knees. That's all.
And no...I am certainly not one who boasts that Mintoff had left any Treasure...but....but...I do acknowledge that had it not been for him in the 70's, Malta would have not made such progress at that time.
03/07/08 4:10 AM, scam
scout said:
"the MLP is NOT Sant (alone)and SANT (alone)is not the MLP."
Come on, do you really believe that?
All the good brains from MLP were either thrown out by sant, or sent abroad.
The rest that remained are marching soldiers that obey their general until death do as apart.
03/07/08 4:07 AM, maltesescout
Dear Jake,
I'm not saying that the PN didn't have policies on youth. All parties had. I was talking about the electoral campaigning.
Your argument was ok but alas, you ruined it by mentioning Dr Sant again....the MLP is NOT Sant (alone)and SANT (alone)is not the MLP. That's a gross mistake Jake. Unfortunately the PN decided that it was that way for them. Good luck to them.
03/07/08 4:03 AM, scam
To maltesescout,
You still avodided the fact that being the first to adopt the euro brought with a lot of advantages.
Sant didn't want that, he said it is not the time yet.
Regarding the finances part, I accept that a small percentage of which were waisted, as all governments waste. But don't come with the old issue that mintoff left alot of money in the treasury.
Everything had to be re-constructed everything....
03/07/08 3:58 AM, maltesescout
Dear Scam,
The Euro was a pre-requisite in the Accession treaty. Whether it had to be this year or in 3 years' time was not relevant to some. Of course that everyone welcomes new investment no matter who brings it and when. What's good can never be termed as BAD..period. What is due is due. However, Dr Gonzi simply had to struggle to bring finances in line......the same finances that were in ruins. What I do not understand is why the PN boasts about this since it was the PN which had brought them to such a pityful state.
03/07/08 3:54 AM, STILL AWAITING
Dear Joseph,
The only difference is that he accused PN Ministers about it. Rather than looking at his own party supporters, he started throwing mud without realising that the culprit was one of his own kitchen!
HA ha ha ha ha ha ha
03/07/08 3:51 AM, Jake
Dear Maltes scout,
It targeted women for example Sant doesnt have any policies about the involvemnt of women in work, Gonzi has. Gonzi focused also on the self-employed and education. Come one How can u say that pn focused on University? And i think for example that it is true that Sant will reduce surcharge by half. However dont you think that he will increase on something else. I dont trust Sant and I dont beleive him I think that MLP arent a bad party but there leaderr is totallyy,,,no comment
03/07/08 3:47 AM, scam
bonello,
Is this the first Eu report you are looking at?
It is not my first report Malta was always on the bottom list, and had to struggle in it's first years to adopt the euro, Sant didn't want the Eu let alone the euro.
"Poland overtook us" says sant.
Did they get the euro??
Gonzi had long-term vision in mind, because he knows being among the first to obtain the euro among the new entrants will increase investments in Malta. Very few politicians put long-term vision before popular policies.
And sant is with prove the one who only implements popular policies - VAT in '96, surcharge this time round.
But now we hear of the investments coming, and believe me they are no gimmicks. No matter what people will choose tomorrow, Gonzi's name will be stamped on these investments.
03/07/08 3:45 AM, maltesescout
Dear jake,
True. No one can say where this election will go. However, I think that one of the main mistakes that PN committed was that it only targeted students....as if only University students were first time voters.
03/07/08 3:37 AM, Jake
I totallyy agree with scam I think that Mark Bonello does not know what he's talking about. Yesterday althoguh MLP mass meting was gr8 I think that PN mass meeting is massive taking into consideration the fact that everyonee thinks PN will lose the election. The Mass meeting was full of first time voterss All this must be some food for thought for MLP. Althoguh i think that MLP will win the election we cant be 100% sure. All i know is that under alfred sant malta will suffer open your eyes mark
03/07/08 3:33 AM,
joseph, don't you think that this simon spiteri, was promising jobs because it was evident that MLP will be in power.
Like many MLP activists are doing...
SSSHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
zero tolerance...HAHAHAHA
03/07/08 3:29 AM, Mark Bonello
So scam, there you go you answered your own mud throwing!
Regarding the success that this country is achieving under GonziPN on a European Level I urge you to take a look at this :
http://www.cer.org.uk/pdf/p_806_lisbon08.pdf
03/07/08 3:25 AM, John
I do not mind maltese scout voting for me , but I am not a candidate , so just vote for the party I am supporting! John will not be voting, Sant or Harry , and not even Josie . I am left with a Fonzie look alike who had some first hand experience running a successful PRIVATE organisation, and before being prime minister served as a minister , involved himself in a voluntary organisation helping the handicapped, and when he was Speaker of the house employed as much as he could , people with disabilities , he lives in a residence which is very close to the Sant'Antnin Waste recycling plant,and was man enough to admit that the Xaghara l-Hamra golf coarse proposal was a mistake.He finds solutions for every problem while other armchair critics finds a problem in his solutions. The other party is trying to seduce us to vote for them ,by presenting us with the cute face of a young fresh girl, with a 'come on' look on her face , to get a 60 year old skadut u ghajjien with a disastrous track record of failures in his party . His only jobs were political appointments by his party.
Be back in a few hours , Bye!
03/07/08 3:24 AM, Scam
never mind....
In a couple of years everyone will come back to his senses.
Campaign build on lies that is the only thing I can say.
Finally, one word to bonello, all the valley is a natura2000 resort.
So if sant is a ture hero, I want to see him demolishing the restaurant that has always been there and restore the area.
Not use things to gain mileage in a dirty campaign and then leave them as they are
03/07/08 3:22 AM, Joseph Savona
Dear Still Awaiting, there is a very simple explanation to what u just wrote! This Simon Spiteri may be a labour supporter (may be coz I am not sure of it) and under the PN government. Still this shows that Dr. Sant will be willing to expose corruption from whichever part it comes! Unlike the ever smiling GonziPN!
Hahahahahahaha
03/07/08 3:18 AM, Still Awaiting
Can somone please explain how is it that Simon Spiteri (the one accused in the Freeport scandal) suddenly turned nationalist?
ha ha ha ha
03/07/08 3:15 AM, Mark Bonello
Scam, you are ridiculing yourself without even knowing it! If the land in Mistra is destroyed already why did the EU label it a Natura 2000 resort??? So according to you the EU is once again lying as it is lying when it says that we are performing worst in the Lisbon Strategy.
03/07/08 3:15 AM, maltesescout
Dear Scam
your words
"I don't want to waste words on you. Because you are a die hard."
That's what i call "ARROGANCE".
It appears that some people never learn from their mistakes.
03/07/08 3:14 AM, Scam
spiteri,
Can you realise why i think we are so backwards in politics.
If it was developed by an MLP politician I would have been as objective as I am now.
Sant lied and so did JPO, but I was really angry when I learned that the valley where I spent many weekends with my nanu was being destroyed.
Only to learn that it was that part where there is concrete on the ground where me, my brother and cousins used to play football on.
What a bunch of lies from sant
03/07/08 3:09 AM, Spiteri
Dear Scam,
What would you have said if this land was the property of an MLP minister? Would still react the same way? And by the way you don't need to discribe Mistra and help us take a different picture of what Sant said...cause the point still remains that JPO lyed.
03/07/08 3:09 AM, maltesescout
Scam
With all due respect, two wrongs never make a right. And please, elections come every 5 years in order that people exercise their right in a democracy. It's pointless to say that the Maltese are "backwards" in their political mentality. That simply shows "arrogance", which incidentally will be what will put the PN back in opposition (if the MLP wins of course). And btw....there are no real winners or losers if we firmly believe that we want the best for our country.
03/07/08 3:08 AM, Scam
I don't want to waste words on you. Because you are a die hard.
I went to Mistra and seen the state of the land as it is.
Believe me any development would only have done good to the area. There is not on inch that is virgin land with unique features only found in that valley.
But of course you will not doubt that and will not go and have a look like i did.
Sant will win with lying, as we say iz-zejt dejjem jitla fwicc l-ilma.
03/07/08 3:01 AM, Mark Bonello
Scam, please let us be serious! Yesterday GonziPN was accusing Dr. Sant of throwing mud!!!!! I couldn't believe my ears! NET TV and the Nationalist Propaganda Machine has been throwing mud at Dr. Sant and the Labour Party for the last 10 years if not more! Go around Malta and you'll see billboards attacking Dr. Sant! The same was in place five years ago! and even ten years ago! The PN Media constantly attacks Dr. Sant personally even DCG speaks about his physical aspects as if it was some kind of joke! Now that Dr. Sant is saying the truth about corruption and the destruction of environment you start calling it mud throwing??? So whoever tells the truth is throwing mud????
Grow up my friend!
03/07/08 2:56 AM, Scam
This land was destroyed in a labour-led government.
How can sant be so arrogant to come out with these lies.
MLP will win, but it will dirty, and like '96 it will not be able to keep going for long.
Who will suffer? Common mortals like me and the majority of the population.
I can not believe how backwards we are with political mentality in this country.
03/07/08 2:54 AM, St.Edwards
Dear Mr. Balzan,
Many years ago at St Edwards College I and another few guys enjoyed counting how many "right" you said in a 40 minute environment studies lesson. At times the count exceeded a hundred.
I must say that you are very "RIGHT" about the above.
Well, after reading your article I should have gone to President Edward Fenech Adami for a pardon whenever you gated me. Maybe I would have got away!!
I would like to comment on the heroes welcome JPO got on stage introduction to the pn meeting. I was very shocked to see how around 50% of my compatriots react to a scandal related to the last few square meters left of our countryside. We are our own worst enemy!!!
I must also tell you that I possibly would have voted for you had you contested the election, something I would have never dreamt of around 15 years ago when I was your student.
Hope that you being housebound is nothing serious,
Keep up the good work !!
03/07/08 2:53 AM, maltesescout
John,
for votes? who knows?
03/07/08 2:51 AM, John Schembri
Hey where's everybody?Gone fishing?
03/07/08 2:48 AM, Shit stirer
I can say the same about the Ramla-l-Hamra , on TV NO ONE showed us the whole truth, not even AD . The shack restaurants on the sand , and the fields turned to parking areas, were not shown to us by the SAVE THE RAMLA l'HAMRA campaigners.It is already in a mess, with the blessing of MEPA and the so called NGO's.
03/07/08 2:46 AM, maltesescout
I have a feeling that elections are already won and lost.
03/07/08 2:41 AM,
IF you (no colours) call those flag waving, idiots, I can assure that I am one of them. But not because of the fact that any one from my party pays my taxes or send me cheques so I can stay at home. I support my party cause I think he is offering the best at the moment, like all supporters do, I suppose.
But again thanks for your nice comment 'pitful flag waving idiots'really appreciatated. Maybe this could be you in the first place in 5 years time.
03/07/08 2:41 AM, Scam
I just have been down to Mistra.
And I know the place very well because my nanu used to have fields there.
Do you know that the land in question is not virgin at all?
There is no virgin land that JPO was going to destroy. It has been ages like it is now, where concrete is laid on the floor.
So much to unique sea marshes and all the rare things there is on this piece of land that Sant made us believe.
And latter was backed by NGOs. What about that restaurant then? Should it be put down and the land restored to it's unique properties.
Funny how a person can win an election.
03/07/08 2:41 AM, John Schembri
No Colours, what did you mean by your misprint red/blue party "FREINDS" was it friends or fiends ?
03/07/08 2:31 AM,
Prosit!
03/07/08 2:24 AM, No Colours
It's a fact that the majoriy of Maltese citizens are colour blind when it comes to politics. It's either they see blue or red nothing else. This election will be the true barometer to calculate how much this nation has evolved in political intellegence. I very much doubt it...... good luck Malta.
Whoever comes on Monday I will still be working hard for my money, creating jobs and paying the usual taxes for does pityful flag waving idiots who do not know what they are voting for...... unless it's the usual bunch of money-suckers so called double faced red/blue party freinds.
03/07/08 12:39 AM, John Schembri
To Saviour , GET WELL SOON! We hope it is nothing serious .With this internet and technology you are never alone and know exactly what is happening around you.Do not reflect too much because you may turn into a mirror!Hey ,you R a mirror , you are showing us exactly what we are....Nixtiequlek fejqan ta' malajr.
03/07/08 12:34 AM, maltesescout
I thought that today was the day of "reflection" :)
03/07/08 12:34 AM, 10q
Get back soon to work Saviour!
Just keep in mind that some time after the election, we'll be back to mother earth and face the music.
Reality bites. I think that after 1 week eveyone will be back to normal, grumbling against everything on earth! Raining, cold, hot, cost of living, hospital, expensive things, studying, etc etc etc...
Well there would still be someone to blame for.... Government ;)
Thanks for the opportunity Saviour.
And please do come back as fast as you can. We need you.
03/07/08 12:29 AM, Seneca
To "clean Country" always look on the bright side of life , remember that as soon as sant was in government he rid us of "Il-kunsill tal-Haddiema tat-Tarzna" together with macho Sammy Meilak. It was a REAL good one. Where was the GWU ?Thanks Alf!
03/07/08 12:23 AM, maltesescout
Dear Saviour,
Allow me to thank you for making this site available to all to allow us to submit our candid views. I also wish you luck.
03/07/08 12:20 AM, Spiteri
Tas-swieqi mana ma taghmlu xejn mhux hekk tfisser . turix min fejn int!
03/07/08 12:08 AM,
sant have no choice but to accept we are in eu.its about time he accepted it.hope li ma jkissrux kull maw jek jerbhu
03/07/08 12:06 AM, It's over finally
Not much where to choose from...
However I have no alternative and go to vote tomorrow!
Vote the best amongst the worst!
Whom I'll be voting? hmmmmmmmmmmm
Not difficult to guess. Who's'
the best amongst the worst?
Surely not the one that Kurt Sansone tried to ridicule on One TV yesterday. I thought he was an unbiased journalist... I was wrong. However thanks Kurt. You really helped me take my decision.
Igri jghaddi kollox u nergghu nibdew ingergru kontra l-gvern ...
03/07/08 12:00 AM, Tas-Swieqi
Il-bierah wara l- meeting tal-MLP smajthom ikantaw "Ma taghmlu xejn mal-lejber partij " u ta' GonziPn fuq it -TV "flimkien kollox possibbli".Nahseb li veru!
03/06/08 11:31 PM, John
Why didn't Sant 'face' JPO in this mudslinging campaign? If Sant had enough proof why did he leave it up to the eve of the election to reveal it to us, isn't this a Terrinata?Are we going to vote for a person to be Prime Minister of Malta, who is not able to face his selected "shackled" victim, with "undeniable evidence" in his hands? What would happen to us , if he is our Prime Minister , and is faced with a more difficult situation on a negotiating table with other "Whale" countries ?If anything the so called Mistra Scandal revealed how badly Dr Sant handles situations which he purposely selects.
03/06/08 11:01 PM, David Newson
Sorry to hear you've been housebound Saviour..doesn't suit your macho image ta!
I guessed there was something different about Maltatoday lately and couldn't quite put my finger on it,even the letters had little substance these last few days,that is if any appeared at all.
Get well.
03/06/08 10:07 PM, Paul Muscat
PN used FEAR as a tool to persuade the Maltese electorate. However,where there is fear, there is no love, and when actions are not done in love and truth, there is no value.At least,on the positive side, the population has shown to be mature, and despite fear and alarms aroused, it rose to the occasion. Well done Malta!
03/06/08 10:00 PM,
03/06/08 9:31 PM, Clean Country
Thank God Today we can Reflect.
Next Monday will have MLP government and by Tuesday transfers will start to be issued (new labour polices of the past)I just hope that all promises are kept and Zero tolerance will be actuated.
The problem is that 5 years will pass and the MLP will have to face reality. I hope that we will not get the same comments like the one of the MIRCA.
Good luck for those who will vote (invest)MLP.
03/06/08 5:31 PM, dirty harry
generic answer that i can not, not agree with.
over for now... thanks for the good discussion.
Hope whoever wins and looses will face their opponents as civil as we did. After all we are maltese and want the best for our country!!
03/06/08 5:31 PM, Jos Borg
Also, speaking of performance, corruption is that precise counterpart of performance. In the corruption are, Gonzi has failed his test. That is the plain truth.
03/06/08 5:29 PM, Jos Borg
Btw, who told you that I was against in 03???
03/06/08 5:28 PM, Jos Borg
It is too early to judge whether it was really beneficial. Having said this I do now believe that in the long run, Malta will benefit from membership. Having also said this, sometimes I do feel the the EU is used to escape reality and shift to never land. Performance of politicians locally will always be important in the progress of a country, immaterial of being EU members or not.
03/06/08 5:23 PM, dirty harry
so one final cheeky question.
Do you accept that EU has proven to be more beneficial than you previously thought?
03/06/08 5:20 PM, Jos Borg
In Labour meetings two flags are raised. The European and the Maltese. We have all accepted this reality. And it is time that you start believing that truly, we have all accepted this reality.
03/06/08 5:18 PM, Jos Borg
I keep on telling you, Alfred Sant has accepted the EU reality. Ideologically he is against the EU, but now the country is in and that what matters. And I repeat, he said a gazillion times that we now have to act in an EU framework.
03/06/08 5:14 PM, Jos Borg
He didn't say that. He simply avoided talking about it because let's face it, it is in the PN interest to constantly bring this up. The momentum of the MLP this week took the PN bulldozers by surprise. You have to admit this. Bringing up the partnership issue is just an act of sheer desperation. That is my opinion. We are now members of the EU and we went to Brussels to stay. I accepted it, AS accepted it and the whole population accepted it.
03/06/08 5:13 PM, dirty harry
you see i imagine a sant needing to take an important decision for our country at a table, and he explains his believes.
I think not even if all that table would suggest him not to do it he would go back. Thats why I say that I can not trust him. The past and the present showed us that he can not dialogue.
03/06/08 5:11 PM, dirty harry
no no joe
you don't get it. Sant officially told EU by freezing the application in '96 that if it was for him he would not make Malta enter the EU.
Then 12 years after he never gave a clear sign to have accepted that, actually he gave signs to the oppposite.
And sant is a man who never goes back to his believes.
I swear that if A. Sant had gave clear signs about accpeting the EU and reconciled with people like L.Spiteri I would have no problems voting for labour at this stage.
03/06/08 5:07 PM, Jos Borg
Mate, that is the reality of democracy. There is an issue, and a percentage are against and a percentage that are in favour. Luckily for you, the percentage that were in favour exceed 50%+1. Now your dream has been fulfilled and we are now members of the EU. Now that your dream has been fulfilled move one and leave 03 behind.
03/06/08 5:05 PM, dirty harry
that is what i thought.
but as soon as he said that partnership won lately, I stoppped believing that.
That is one of the main reasons I don't trust him. He can not face his mistakes...
03/06/08 5:03 PM, Jos Borg
Alfred Sant has now fully accepted today's reality i.e. we are now full member of the EU. He also said that we have to work in and EU framework. He said this a gazillion and one times.
03/06/08 5:02 PM, dirty harry
"Live your life in play mode not rewind mode."
It is very hard for many people like me who have EU at heart to accept that.
And if that applies to sant it applies to gonzi when he says he will fight corruption, no?
Gonzi only had a couple of years to start changing people, he is still new and he needs an election to implement change...
03/06/08 5:01 PM, Jos Borg
Alfred Sant has his political view on referda. I think this is quite acceptable. Since Sant is very well read (and noone can argue this) he concludes that in theory referenda can potentially be used to manipulate what people think. Now this goes against everyone who has democracy at heart. In fact when he stated what Hitler used to do, it is the truth because I read it also. And it is also the truth that Germany (one of the most politically advanced nation today) has banned referenda by constitution because they know what devastating consequences referenda can bring about if used badly. Now he made his point and that is his view.
Because of this, he came up with the famous "Le/Tivvutax/Hassar il-Vot" trio. When results popped out, he put the 47% "le" votes and the percentages of the other two in one basket. Because of this his interpretation was that partnership won. We all know that he was wrong and the 03 election proved this. Now get on with it, we are in 08. Live your life in play mode not rewind mode.
03/06/08 4:55 PM, Jos Borg
Alfred Sant has his political view on referda. I think this is quite acceptable. Since Sant is very well read (and noone can argue this) he concludes that in theory referenda can potentially be used to manipulate what people think. Now this goes against everyone who has democracy at heart. In fact when he stated what Hitler used to do, it is the truth because I read it also. And it is also the truth that Germany (one of the most politically advanced nation today) has banned referenda by constitution because they know what devastating consequences referenda can bring about if used badly. Now he made his point and that is his view.
Because of this, he came up with the famous "Le/Tivvutax/Hassar il-Vot" trio. When results popped out, he put the 47% "le" votes and the percentages of the other two in one basket. Because of this his interpretation was that partnership won. We all know that he was wrong and the 03 election proved this. Now get on with it, we are in 08. Live your life in play mode not rewind mode.
03/06/08 4:41 PM, dirty harry
how can i vote for someone who has been ducking questions and running away from dialogues, when he has to go in the EU and be diplomatic.
How can i trust him in brining back home good results for malta and keeping good relations with the EU.
So many issues besides corruption joe
03/06/08 4:39 PM, dirty harry
you see that is why I don't believe in this removing corruption issue.
Now how can I vote for someone who still says to the very last day of campaigning that partnership won?
Why doesn't he believe in refernda?
That is pretty undemocratic, don't you think?
03/06/08 4:37 PM, Jos Borg
Of course I don't agree. But please bear in mind that there is the gonziPN version of what you are saying. As I said down below, this is a case of choosing between two evils.
I am sorry to say that right now, the best evil is A.Sant because despite his low points, he represents a shortcut to the corruption phenomena.
03/06/08 4:31 PM, dirty harry
I agree mintoff was good, but mintoff was good for the 70's kind of politics, when the social government was though to be the solution.
Times changed and a moderate market model proved to make more sense. For malta to switch to that it needed lots of money to invest in the eroded infrastructure.
I admit, AGAIN, lots of money were and still are being thrown out. Corruption is an issue that changes governments, but people from the Mintoff era are still deep in the roots of MLP. A complete face-lift needs to be done for people to witch sided in mass.
Since you didn't comment the activist's actions. Do you find them correct??
03/06/08 4:26 PM, Jos Borg
In fact you are wrong. Alfred Sant made some mistakes in the past. No one can deny that. Isn't it obvious? But I feel that this election is a choice between "accepting corruption" and "denying corruption". Between "no one is above the law" and "large contractors are above the law". I do feel that Maltese can stand up to corruption. And I really do believe that history is repeating itself. If corruption is acceptable in this country, DOM MINTOFF would have won the election in 87. I also do believe that with all the low points of Mintoff, I think he is the politician which has really achieved for this country. Now you can disagree with this. No problem, we are still friends. But when one considers what state Malta was in 1971 when he took office and the 471,000,000 solid hard maltese liri in reserves that were heired by our beloved president, one may consider that Mintoff is the politician that, with numbers not statistics, has really achieved. But, despite all this, in 87 the Maltese still turned their back on him because when corruption comes into the picture, everthing falls second place.
03/06/08 4:25 PM, dirty harry
my friend, the fact that halving the surcharge will not help to motivate people save energy was backed by an energy expert.
The housing proposal is completly to thrown, A. Sant will be giving loans who don't have enough money to have collateral. Banks don't give loans to those people becuase they are too risky. AD got it spot on, regarding the housing proposal fix the rent laws. But no party want to that or promise because it will loose them votes.
03/06/08 4:23 PM,
R u still alive????
03/06/08 4:19 PM, dirty harry
do you believe deep down that MLP will be clean?
I told you, and I was 100% honest, that I know MLP activists that are promising favours, then there was the charles mangion fact, the freeport case.
Then my mother who is a die-hard (unfortunately) PN fan. Went to the Gozo meeting last tuesday.
Do you know that at cirkewwa there was an MLP activist from my town, that was writing down names of people from my town who attended the meeting. And making phone calls.
My mum also said that he was making sure to be seen. What shall we call that provocation?? I swear on my life that this is true...
03/06/08 4:15 PM,
Ma nafx ta imma irnexxilhom jaqdu l-ingilterra ma franza b'mina taht lart li ma nafx kemm il-kilometru hi twila, u irnexxilhom jifthu is-suez canal ghageb ghax tqatta naqra blat, ghax hdejn dawn il-progetti dawn mhuma xejn.
Ghid li ta GonziPN tathom rashom ghax MLP hargu bi pjan bil-bajd u huma kienu ghadhom ma lestew xejn u ma kienux jafu xser jghamlu u bdew jikritikaw biex taghhom jidher isbah.
Forsi il-hames bozoz idea izjed elaborata u konkreta!?
Spiru Sant alla jahfirlu kien johrog bdawn lideat ta dahk.Jien nahseb li bil-kontijiet kif qed nircevuhom illum diga kullhad mimli bl-energy savers.
Qalilna li bil-proposta tas-surcharge bin-nofs ikun izjed hala.Mela biex ma nahlux gholilhom il-kontijiet u thallilhomx flus in-nies u ma jahlux.Prosit xi rragunar dak.Gieh ir-republika jonqsu.
Rigward it-taxxa fuq l-overtime prova jbengila li tas-super one jithallsu bis-siegha siegha.Illum jekk tikkalkula kemm jaqtalek taxxa minn fuq l-overtime tispicca tibqa bis-siegha siegha f'idejk igifieri mhemm lebda differenza jekk nigu hekk li mhux ha nigu hekk.U tmerix lili fuq l-overtime ghax nghamel bl-ghama.
Fuq l-ewwel dar li tixtri lewwel qabada ghax id-djar ha jolew u xhin ra li mhix ha tahdem beda jeqred ghax trid thallashom lura jekk tbiegh id-dar b'rata ta imghax kummercjali.Mhux ovja kieku ma jkunx hekk kieku kulhadd jiklejmja li ha jizzeweg, jiehdu l-flus jixtru id-dar u jitfawa ghal bejgh f'gimgha u ta lira jghamlu tnejn.
03/06/08 4:14 PM, Jos Borg
Ok. Good for me then. So now we are both agreeing that both promise what cannot be achieved, sometimes. The point we are in a position of choosing between two evils. The worse of which has shadows of corruption.
03/06/08 4:14 PM, dirty harry
but you see, I face the mishaps of the party I currently support.
Very few of the commenters here do.
03/06/08 4:10 PM, dirty harry
I found that very absurd indeed joe.
I couldn't believe, that he said that.
Regarding alternative energy solar panels is the only way for Malta, very few other countries have sun per day more than Malta.
03/06/08 4:09 PM, Colin Vassallo
Dear Saviour
I will never question your objectivity. Moreover,you are very free to be biased in favour of and/or against anything you feel like. You’re both a respected editor and columnist who graces the Maltese press.
However there’s one thing that I expect from you as one of your regular readers. I expect that you report all the facts and never omit any pertinent information.
Harry Vassallo wasn’t arrested. He was reminded of the fine he had to pay and that he should sort it out tout de suite to avoid running into further trouble. This was declared by the Police Commissioner following an internal investigation. As far as I know Harry hasn’t challenged the Police Commissioner’s findings.
Until Harry proves me wrong, the publicity stunt he pulled with the involvement of his kids that he was the victim of a ploy orchestrated by the Nationalist Party is disgraceful. It was an attempt to attract sympathy votes which in my opinion backfired badly.
Apparently, Saint Harry is not squeaky clean after all.
Thanks
cu Colin
(I am a Nationalist Party supporter and will be voting PN next Saturday)
03/06/08 3:58 PM, Jos Borg
Did you know that Gonzi is promising windfarms 20 miles out with a depth threshold of 50 metres?
Now, did you know that there is no area 20 miles out which is less than 100 metres deep? Don't argue with this because I have my marine chartplotter at hand showing this. Now, how did Gonzi study this?
03/06/08 3:51 PM, dirty harry
Of course it can be improved, but did you see the idea, they want to connect the sea under the main gate? from the grand harbour sea to the other part.
Do you know what difference in height there is? Do you know whether there will be any damage done to the bastions? I don't know and neither does labour.
Because they didn't stduy it, and I understand that they couldn't study it, because you study it when you are in government. But that thing is completly absurd.
You just don't come up with those things in an electoral campaign, like you don't come up with a complete revolution in the education system. A. Sant has been told not to promise that because loads of studies need to be done first, yet he came out and said these ideas of his. Then we wonder how he was so ridiculed about them.
Let's face it mate, I faced corruption, you face the fact that A. Sant can not listen to experts. And that is why MLP has lost it's best person, L.Spiteri.
Remove A. Sant and I will vote for change...
03/06/08 3:49 PM,
Hallih habib lil zijuh dak qed jinharaq fin-nar ta l-infern.Bhalissa nahseb lehaq gie well done minn dak iz-zmien l'hawn.
03/06/08 3:44 PM,
Harry ghandi ktieb, li ghall-grazzja ta'Alla, urih illum Sant, li nhareg mill-PN u jghid li kellha tigi introdotta RC ta'eta ta hames snin. Din vera ghax anke jien rajta. Giefieri man, objectivity is important in life. U apparti hekk, bir-rispett kollu, ma nafx ghax l-MUT qedd tinghad bhala espert fis-sugett. MUT hija ghaqda ta min jghallem mhux ghaqa ta' l-esperti tat-taghlim. Taf minn hu l-espert?? Dak il-profs li kiteb fuq it-times da l-ahhar u qal li l-idea hi tajba. Plus li hekk nassigurak li jekk din il-haga tahdem, kullhadd jigi favuriha ir-RC. Din is-soltu, il-PN qabdu tema biex minnghalihom jaghmlu xi naqa braiwashing. GHal-grazzja talla Dottor Gonzi mhux tajjeb daqs zijuh fil-brainwashing imma msomma......
03/06/08 3:41 PM,
Meta smajt bi smart city u dubai f'malta nahseb hadt qatt ma haseb li tista ssir realta.Nahseb l'anqas int.Imma il-progett gie ifffirmat u nahseb li ha tibda issir.Ghaliex il-Belt LE?????
Kun ottimist bhal ma jajdlek Gonzi u hares il-quddiem habib.Xi darba ried isir xi haga ghax dik gawrha li tlaqnija.Ghamilna il-water front u gie wiehed mil-oggeti sbieh li ghandna ahseb u ara jekk nghamlu il-belt kif hi proponuta xi qziez ikolna.Dan hu l-unika pajjiz fl-ewropa li il-belt kapitali mitluqa u mhix ic-centru ta l-attrazjoni.Kun realistiku kieku jirnexxilna nghamlu il-belt sabiha kieku lanqas immur izjed lejn paceville.
Taf xi storja hemm wara dik il-balla gebel mitluqa.Zgur ma timmaginax ghax kieku tiggenen.Kieku it-turizmu jisplodi hawnekk.Hemm bzonn li nghamlu bidla f'kollox my friend
03/06/08 3:41 PM,
people next saturday we have to vote for the future of our country and who is able to do that at the moment is gonzi, these last atacks from labour that have a certain evidence and i agree that people involved must pay for this if found giulty.but remember what visions the two partys have,the future will depend in the decisions taken who will be in goverment next week!!
03/06/08 3:36 PM, Joey Borg
tista tghiduli x'inhi DCG???? GHax qedd nipprova nara x'inhi u ma sibtx xejn. Sry
Urgenti Please.
03/06/08 3:29 PM, dirty harry
my friend,
I was one of the many that benefited without any favours, because I was given opportunities and with persistence and hard work I took them.
You didn't get me at all, you got it all wrong actually. I am realistic and realise that corruption and opportunism will always be part of the game in Malta, as it will always be in football and in any kind of other buisness.
Don't be so naive, because in another two years time if MLP is in government you will have to bow your head again and accept reality.
Vote for vision, even though it comes at a cost... A. Sant unfortunately has no vision, because all the proposals where slammed down by experts in their own field. Thus, he resorted to the only thing everyone is capable of doing when he looses battle on the ground, find excuses and throw mud!!
Conclusion: MLP in government=no vision and a very high risk of yet another dirty government.
P.S. do you really believe that the valletta project will ever happen????
03/06/08 3:20 PM,
Dirty Harry
Qed tiprova taqbez ghal partit tijak bla argumenti.L-anqas hallewlek ghaliex taqbez ghalihom.
Qed tinduna li ghamlu kollox hazin u qalbek ma ttikx li tajdilhom ghax ma tixtieqx titlef nhar il-Hadd.
Personalment ma nafekx pero naf fic-cert li fqieh qalbek thossok tisthi u tradut minn partit li ttih appogg ghax forsi nazzjonalist genwin u onest imma sfortunatament dik hi il-verita.
Jien grali hekk meta sentejn ilu harget il-verita fuq it-team tal-Juventus.Ma nafx issegwix il-futbol pero niftakar li fil bidu bdejt najjar lit-timijiet kollha l-ohra imma meta bdew hergin il-provi baxxejt rasi u illum nirringrazzja l-alla ghax sentejn wara hemm team li qijed gholi fil-klassifika u nadif.
Il-vot tijak uzah biex tghamelil-gid lilek innifsek mhux lill-erba hbieb tal-hbieb li sfortunatament ghalissa ghadhom imexxu l-pajjiz.
03/06/08 3:11 PM, dirty harry
As if... I will ever believe that A. Sant will ever control corruption, not even the creator himself will ever manage to do that in our country.
For that reason only I wish A.Sant is elected, I would like to see him excusing his ministers. I know of many cases by labour diehards that have been promising "favours" to buy votes. And if the promise of zero tollerance is kept after 6 months he will have a minorty in parliament.
And I will be the first one to go to the police with them, beacuse if Sant is thrown in power mud throwing would be the only reason.
No one seem to talk about charles mangion (the left hand of Sant) and company...
Finally,to those who will elect an MLP government with the hope of removing corruption, they are only shifting corruption to the other side. Good luck to those who will benefit, to the rest I say think again...
03/06/08 3:05 PM, steve demanuele
kemm ma ngabrux voti,u fejn rajtuha pls???
thank you
03/06/08 3:00 PM,
Where has the news been published Pierre
03/06/08 2:58 PM,
Ghaziz Dirty Harry,
Ma nafx ta qisek mhux qed tghix f'malta.Dawn l'affarijiet mhux l-ewwel darba li graw.Din id-darba b'differenza.Id-differenza li kien hemm nies mil-Partit Nazzjonalista genwini u ta rieda tajba li mdejqin bit-tmexxija u l-hmieg li hakem il-partit taghhom li huwa ghal qalbhom li wasslu id-dokumenti tal-hmieg u korruzjoni lil min jahsbu li huwa serju u bil-bocci biex jiehu hsieb inaddaf.Bhal kas ta JPO A.Sant ghandu izjed u qalu u stess imma ma jistax jikxifhom ghalissa ghax m'hemmx il-whistle blowers act u ma jridx jitfa f'theddida lil min tah id-dokumenti.Pero halef li kif u jekk jitla fil-gvern jaddi ligi fuq il-whistle blowers act u dawn il-kazi johorgu kollha.Jien ma hadt xejn bi kbir bil-kaz ta JPO ghax dawn l-affarijiet ilni nisma bihom.Il-gravi hu li mil antiki kont nistennija imma issa l'anqas id-demm gdid ma tista tafda.Din hi inkwetanti.Li jien sorpriz li fuq A.Sant qatt ma hareg xejn hazin.L-unika leader fl-istorja ta malta li qatt ma smajna affarijiet ta ksur ta etika fuqu ghax gonzi f'erba snin smajna ezempju li ta direct order lill-kuginuh il-perit ta JPO(X'kumbinazzjoni) fuq l-isptar il-gdid.
Mela guys ghazlu labour ghax ma SANT m'hemmx korruzjoni.
Fl-ahhar mill-ahhar kulhadd iwighed u ma jwettaqx.Mela ghal inqas jkollna gvern nadif.
03/06/08 2:49 PM, Jos Borg
5000 vot fil-kuntest ta' Malta huma hafna. Di tal-voti li ma ngabrux mazra ohra ghall-pn.
03/06/08 2:45 PM, pierre
tafu kemm hemm votti li ma ingabrux 5000
03/06/08 2:40 PM, Joe Borg
Le ras give up xejn.
Naf li iebsa meta xi hadd tan-naha tieghek jizbalja. Pero il-fatti huma fatti. Jidispjacini.
03/06/08 2:38 PM, dirty harry
ok mela,
i give up....
03/06/08 2:35 PM, Joe Borg
L-ewwel dokument kien li juri fej il-perit jibaghat lis-sid ta l-art (JPO) b'dak li ha jsir. Dan huwa statt ta'fatt ghax jien b'esperjenza personali ghaddejt minnu. Jekk inti jkollok bicca art u tbiddel il-flushing tat-toilet ukoll trid tavza is-sid bil-ligi.
"THE PREMISES SAID IT WILL SOLEY BE USED FOR AN OPEN AIR DISCO"
Dan hu x'fih it-tieni wiehed. Rajtu fuq TVM issa.
Plus li awditur qal li kien hemm xi korruzjoni involut fin-nofs. Din qaluha fuq TVM ukoll.
Ok ras?? Kuntent? Jekk mintix, toqoghdx tinkwieta. :)
03/06/08 2:21 PM, dirty harry
joe,
jien li qed insaqsi hija din, jista jkun li il parti fejn hemm il firem u il parti fejn hemm il kumplament, mhuiex l-istess dokument?
Issa jekk dan il kaz huwa veru, jista jkun li fejn jidru l-ammonti huwa ifabrikat? Ghala qed nghid ekk?
Ghax ghal kuntrarju ta dokument l-iehor li hargu it tlieta jew it tnejn meta kien, gie moddi lil meddia u der fuq il website tat-times.
Dan id dokument ta l-ahhar ma giex moddi lil media.
Issa dan ghala ma giex moddi lil media?? U baqa fidejn il labour.
Iva madona tihdu kollox at face value ma tidubitaw xejn?
Jien ghandi dubji kbar li JPO qed jigdeb, imma ghandi dubji fuq dan ukoll.
03/06/08 2:09 PM, Joe Borg
Dear Mr Annonymous,
Once again, we will get to know about this next Sunday. About the new faces, it is true. But new faces usually, as they have always done, balance each other out. We all know that both parties have an enormous support from the population. New faces can be PN just as they can be MLP. You can never say. Dr.Sant, to his dismay, tried to do this back in 03 with his "Le/Tivvutax/Hassar il-Vot" trick. After the referendum a lot of fictionary Mathematics suggested that MLP was going to win the elections. The same can happen with PN this time round. You can never say. no matter how valid your argument is, what voters are going to decide when they have their ballot paper in hand.
03/06/08 2:03 PM, Joe Borg
Dirty Harry,
Imbirikalla JPO kera l-art ghall-45000, biex minn krieha jmur jaghmel picnic fiha. GHax skond il-ligi, dik l-unika haga li tista taghmel fuqa dik l-art.
03/06/08 2:00 PM,
Joe but you have to note that this time around there are a lot of new faces within the PN camp and this can make a difference.Those PN who were not going to vote or were going to vote AD and might have decided to vote PN again will discard the old faces and vote on the new ones. In this way they will be voting PN and will be paying back the old ones fo their faults
03/06/08 1:53 PM, dirty harry
iva iva kuntratt qed nghidlek jien.
Imma li qal sant ilejla, u li qed juru fuq maltastar huwa kuntrat fuq l izvilup tad disco.
Issa JPO qal li dawk il firem li hemm mhux fuq il progett tad disco imma fuq tal lease. Ghalhekk qed kif jibdew alphabetical imbad jelibu number form il-bullets. Jista jkun li huma zewg dokumenti differenti... U il-maltatsar u il-labour qed jghamluhom bhala parti mil-istess wiehed...
03/06/08 1:51 PM, Joe Borg
Dear MR without name,
Your comment has a certain degree of validity. We will see next Sunday what will happen. But this is a very tough one for gonziPN. Unfortunately there are too many parasitic shadows with the gonziPN candidates. This usually is unacceptable with flexible voters. We got the lesson in 1987 on this point.
03/06/08 1:46 PM, Joe Borg
Dirty Harry, ghax issa qedd naqra il-pappagallata minn naha tal-PN. Immagina jiena ghandi bicca art u naghmel signing of lease mieghek, sewwa? Dak x'jigi, mhux kuntratt jahasra? Hekk jmissu ma jkunx kuntratt. Nigi jien fuqek, nghidlek isma ta hi, ha nerga nehodlok l-art ghax dak signing of lease huwa mhux kuntratt. Meta in-nies jaghmlu signing of lease il-partijiet jkunu qedd jaqblu fuq certu punti li jkunu ftehmu huma stess. Allura sintendi, dak jigi kuntratt fil-fatt.
03/06/08 1:44 PM,
Joe I tend to agree with you all those who will be voting Saturday are decided there are the traditional voters nd there are the floaters but the diffirence this time will be the cross party voters. There are those Labour who had voted for Eu and voted for the PN and this time will be voting MLP this time and there are Labour who will be voting PN to have a change in their leadership and the school issue which I hear a lot about. PN voters will vote AD and not MLP. Then there are the new votes.
03/06/08 1:43 PM, pierre
JPO qall li ma kienx jaf fuq il permes li hareg. u il- part nazonalista qabes ghalih. dr sant ilum wera il kuntrat li ifirma JPO fil- bidu ta janar. tafu x'triser din guys li JPO gideb lil dr gonzi wahda bhal din tfiser hafna ghalija.gonzi laqas kien jaf kif sa irsbondi.dr sant din idarba ninzalu il-kapel.
03/06/08 1:40 PM, Joe Borg
Better say "bir-rispett kollu" then calling other people elves because someone else thinks differently.
03/06/08 1:38 PM, Joe Borg
Ifhem Sant improvja hafna ghal fuq it-TV da l-ahhar. Huwa stat ta fatt. Imma dibattitu mhux ogett li tirbah jew titlef. In-nies ga decizi mate.
03/06/08 1:38 PM, Liza
Joe, I love the way you say 'bir rispett kollu' Let's remember that we are all Maltese first and foremost and that politics should not divide us.
03/06/08 1:38 PM,
Imma jippendi kief twiegeb menta tkun fuq id-defense. Ghaliex b'kontra attak dejjem tista tirbah
03/06/08 1:38 PM, pierre
03/06/08 1:36 PM, pierre
imma qad kont timagina li dr sant kin sa ikun irebih ghax jiena qad ma kont nahsiba. dr gonzi kien il-hin kollu fuq id-defence
03/06/08 1:35 PM, Joe Borg
Bir-rispett kollu ta'. Dibattitu hadd ma jirbhu. Mela issa sar xi loghba football dibattitu??
03/06/08 1:34 PM,
Mela Pierre can tell us
03/06/08 1:33 PM, Liza
Sorry mate, ask Joe Borg.. I did not watch the debate got back too late.
03/06/08 1:33 PM, Joe Borg
U tigix tghiduli li Gonzi ma jahrabx mill-affarijiet. Mhux ghax Sant le ta'. Imma il-problema tal-gonziPN diehards hi li dejjem ghaddejjin li Sant jahrab l-affarjiet. Vera ta'. Agreed. Imma gonzi daqsu tajjeb, bir-rispett kollu.
U meta toqoghod tahseb, xi tridu jghid il-Gonz meta jqajjimlu il-kaz ta'JPO. JPO sar, mit-tifel prodigu ta' l-ambjent, il-mazra ta'Gonzi.
U l-isbah wahda hi meta gie jsaqsina kif qatt jista' jkun li zewg warrants datati Settembru li ghadda, hargu issa fil-berah. Min kien il-Prim Dr.Gonzi da l-ahhar snin???
03/06/08 1:32 PM,
Mela what did AS say Pierre that made him win the debate?
03/06/08 1:31 PM, Liza
Prosit at least it wasn't wasted airtime..lol
03/06/08 1:30 PM, dirty harry
hey pierre,
If I had to choose who won the debate maybe I would have to agree with you.
But then again, like this last week A. Sant went on the all out attack against the pn-led administartion. Slightly mentioned MLP's proposal. Whilst Gonzi was trying to disprove the allegations and mentioning the proposals.
People on maltarightnow there is a piece on JPO, where he claims that the document that A. Sant was showing was not a contract about a disco but just the signing of the lease.
I had a look at the report that is shown on mltastar. Oddly enogh on the part where there is the signatures the bullets are in alphabetical form, whilst where there is the details of the diso the bullets are in number form. I raise an eybrow here!!
03/06/08 1:30 PM,
Liza tell us wahat was said?
03/06/08 1:30 PM, pierre
kif nahseb jiena dr sant rebah id-debate illum.lanqas qad ma kont nobsor.
03/06/08 1:29 PM, Liza
Prosit at least it wasn't wasted airtime..lol
03/06/08 1:27 PM, Etienne
Lawrence Gonzi said: "Ghaliex Harry Vassallo gabar xi VAT minghand in-nies". This is a lie. Harry Vassallo was accused by the state that he failed to send VAT returns for a company when he actually wasn't invovled with it anymore. PN is afraid that Sliema and Swieqi people shall vote for AD and god-forbid they make it to parliament.
Sliema was very poorly let down by PN and you could see the place going to the dogs. Contruction everywhere, cranes, small concrete blockhouses at Tigne. You name it.
Harry for AD and even Martin Debono for MLP fought for the trampled rights of these people and now it is appropriate to acknowledge their efforts by voting for them. PN is just playing the scarmongering game. Sliema and Swieqi people remember that you have been taken for a ride for too long. If you want more of the same then keep GonziPN.
03/06/08 1:26 PM, Liza
Prosit at least it wasn't wasted airtime..lol
03/06/08 1:25 PM, Joe Borg
I watched the debate.
03/06/08 1:22 PM, Liza
Who watched the debate.. everone was at one of the two mass meetings!
03/06/08 1:18 PM, pierre
jiena nahseb din id-darba dr sant rebah fuq tvm ghal l-ewwel darba. ma kont'x qad nistena hekk.
03/06/08 1:18 PM, Liza
Phew.. do I look forward to the calm that will settle over these islands tomorrow, coupled with a mud free weekend!! Come Tuesday all this will be over.. H Vassallo will NOT be sent to prison, JPO will be found to be squeaky clean and reality will hit us like a cold shower. Let's hope that we would have made the right choice and not one influenced by this recent mass media hysteria.
03/06/08 12:54 PM, dirty harry
I used this name because of a movie character and to be sarcastic etienne.
When did he mention that harry took vat in the debate? I heard the debate and never heard him say that!!
03/06/08 12:50 PM,
Dirty Harry, (I would have preferred Clint Easrwood better), I am not prepared to be taken for a ride by the government, any government, right now our caretaker government is the PN,therefore I am addressing the PN.I have only one job (unfortunately I am not a part-time farmer, part-time journalist, part-time politician and a part-time dentist) and I deserve better.
03/06/08 12:50 PM, Geoffrey
This time round I was convinced to vote Labour. Charles Mangion's comments on the DNA changed that. No matter political opinions and differences I was brought up thinking and believing that we are all equal. I also believe that there have been numerous cases where pn leading people abused of their position. But can any political party vouch that this will not happen when they are in government? The labour party has lost the right to accuse others of corrupt practices a long time ago when io was still a teenager. Magion is actually right, our DNA is different. Thank you for reminding me this. Ours is blue, yours red.. and yours is the screwed up one..so my vote will go once again to the Nationalists. and thank you once again Mr Mangion for waking me up. i was just about to do a bad mistake!
03/06/08 12:40 PM, Etienne
Lawrence Gonzi has lied on TVM during the debate that Harry Vassallo collected VAT from his clients and kept then to himself. What a liar Gonzi is!
This is the same tactic that Fenech Adami used in that infamous meeting of 2003.
Dirty Harry, you should say Dirty Ninu, Dirty Jeffrey, Dirty Jesmond etc...
If it wasn't for and Harry and AD you wouldn't be enjoying Ramla l-Hamra, Xaghra l-Hamra and never heard of the irregular permit given to Caqnu at Safi for his supermarket.
If it wasn't for MLP, Jeffrey would be dirty dancing in Wied tal-Mistra. Shame on GonziPN. Let's vote the liars out.
03/06/08 12:33 PM, dirty harry
I can not because regarding the parliament is an dark box.
I agree with you completly. And we always deserve better, but change is done when you have an option to do it. AD had the best proposals and then PN in my opinion.
Regarding MLP, they came up with some ideas, and as soon as they were shot down by evryone, because no one was consulted, MLP started shooting at everyone.
I want change but it will have to wait for now, since ther are no options....
03/06/08 12:30 PM, Etienne
Lawrence Gonzi has lied on TVM during the debate that Harry Vassallo collected VAT from his clients and kept then to himself. What a liar Gonzi is!
This is the same tactic that Fenech Adami used in that infamous meeting of 2003.
Dirty Harry, you should say Dirty Ninu, Dirty Jeffrey, Dirty Jesmond etc...
If it wasn't for and Harry and AD you wouldn't be enjoying Ramla l-Hamra, Xaghra l-Hamra and never heard of the irregular permit given to Caqnu at Safi for his supermarket.
If it wasn't for MLP, Jeffrey would be dirty dancing in Wied tal-Mistra. Shame on GonziPN. Let's vote the liars out.
03/06/08 12:29 PM,
Dirty Harry, Again, and again, have a look at all the parliamentarians' annual returns and then we can discuss better. Are we agreeing about the concept that everyone, and I mean everyone,should pay his/her dues? But not one weight and two measures. This country has been administered for many years by a crisis management. We deserve better.
03/06/08 12:20 PM, dirty harry
Mr. anonymous.
those pardons regarding vat were given to those who after being approached they arranged their position.
Harry Vassallo aparently kept stating that he had nothing to do with the firm, when he actually is still was a main shareholder.
For those of you who are a bit sharp there is even worse news to this, harry declared he only earns Lm400 as a party member... meditate a bit
03/06/08 11:56 AM, Norbert
Yes it is true that Times of Malta is censoring comments. I have sent six in the last three days, and they have been all CENSORED.
Puh ghalihom, basta l-paladini tal-verita! It-twegiba xorta se jaghtiha l-poplu Malti favur bidla nadifa u serja. Ninu Zammit fejn kien waqt il-kampanja elettorali? Is-sibt innehhu lil Gonzi PN minn nofs.
03/06/08 11:55 AM, Norbert
Yes it is true that Times of Malta is censoring comments. I have sent six in the last three days, and they have been all CENSORED.
Puh ghalihom, basta l-paladini tal-verita! It-twegiba xorta se jaghtiha l-poplu Malti favur bidla nadifa u serja. Ninu Zammit fejn kien waqt il-kampanja elettorali? Is-sibt innehhu lil Gonzi PN minn nofs.
03/06/08 11:54 AM,
Dirty Harry, can you have a look at all presidential pardons given? Were any given to anyone who has not pay any VAT? Mind you I am definitely not condoning any such acts because I always pay my dues to the very last Euro cent. But politicians have to be careful to conduct the country's affairs in a fair way.
03/06/08 11:42 AM, dirty harry
Mr. anonymous.
Have you followed recent developments?
Do you know that Harry Vassallo is still a main sharholder of that firm?
How can you give a presidential pardon to someone who is still breaching the law?
Why shouldn't Harry Vassallio declare his returns like all common mortals do?
03/06/08 11:35 AM,
To all you there, you all know that Harry Vassallo wanted a presidential pardon. It was refused, although these last couple of years there were over 100 presidential pardons given. And you all know about that famous pardon that was given way back. Gonzi's politicians are making a mess, quite a mess out there. Where there is a mess, a broom is needed. Our votes are the broom.
03/06/08 11:07 AM, SF
to the anonymous below
in your one words is just what the PN wanted -
'Harry you lost credibility and votes'
03/06/08 11:04 AM,
FONZIPN u shabu tad-demm gdid(DNA Mahmug) misshom jisthu.Kulhadd jaf jahseb x'gara.Hasbu li ha jitfghu il-lenti li hemm fuqhom fuq haddiehor.MISSHOM JISTHU.Niftakru fit-2003 meta dak ta SANT' ANTON trada lill-alternativa fl-ahhar meeting li kellhom fuq il-fosos.Hekk regghu ghamlu.
03/06/08 11:03 AM, Paul Pace
Saviour, this time Harry let you down. He did not tell the truth, the whole truth. But what bothers me most is how you went for his defence, without investigating as you and your colleagues at Malta Today usually do. Even though it looked fishy right from the start. Your soft spot for Harry AD prevented you from being objective. Now, although time is up, you must check on who supplied the European Greens with the distorted facts, what you and Harry said on Presidential pardons, the hypocrisy in the rent issue campaign and vacant dwellings, why was there was no call for resignation. How would fiery Saviour have reacted had the protagonist been a Nationalist candidate or leader?
03/06/08 10:46 AM, jason
l ahhar elezzjoni niftakar sew lil EFA jghid li l finanzi fis sod. issa jigi Gonzi u jghid li hu gab l finanzi fis sod f'dawn l erba' snin. Minn qed jghid il verita? jien nghid hadd minnhom. Ma tantx kont qed nemmen li JPO kellu x jaqsam mal kaz tal mistra pero llum hareg dokument iehor bil firma u t timbru ta JPO fis sena 2007 li kien hemm x hemm ippropost li se jsir il mistra. ikkonvnjet ruhi li dak li qal alfred sant hu minnu ghalhekk se nivvota labour.
03/06/08 10:37 AM, J. Borg
The anonymous post below wants us to believe that AD manipulated the Courts, the Police and NET journalists?!
Oh give us a break, and a refreshed parliament with AD so we may do away with all this nonsense.
03/06/08 10:13 AM,
Dear Saviour,
It seems that AD also had its DNA mutated.
AD always promoted to be diffrent from the other parties but with this performance they showed that what is important is to gain power and be as all the others.
Harry wasn't honest both with those who were opting to vote AD for the first time and to all AD voters.
In their latest statement the AD didn't deny the comissioner's version that the police didn't went on purpose to arrest or give Harry the arrest warrants.
Shame on those people who try to get cheap political mileage.
None at PN HQ had political mileage since they knew that this story would have damaged their party.
last comment Harry you lost creibility and votes
03/06/08 10:08 AM, Elisa Borg
Timesofmalta.com are censoring AD-favoured comments!!
How can all the comments be to the tune of "vote PN to safe guard democracy"? HOW CAN IT BE?
03/06/08 10:04 AM, Dion Borg
Ok guys...let's have a thorough tax investigation on Harry...I'm sure he will not mind.
Then we do likewise on every individual who has felt the noble calling of serving his country in parliament.
I'm sure we will have mass resignations from the ballot list come Saturday!
2003 - Backstabbing
2008 - Planned Sniper shot - convertible into a boomerang!
03/06/08 10:01 AM, Another lie
Vassallo can still regularise his position - Ministry
The Finance Ministry said this afternoon that contrary to what was claimed yesterday by Alternattiva Demokratika leader Harry Vassallo, according to the Registry of Companies the company Abelweld Ltd still existed and Dr Vassallo was shown as being its majority shareholder, director, company secretary and the person legally responsible for the company.
It was not the case, therefore, that Dr Vassallo no longer represented the company, as he claimed yesterday.
Therefore, the ministry said, when Dr Vassallo informed the VAT Department that he was no longer responsible, he was misleading the department.
The ministry said a Presidential pardon could not be given to Dr Vassallo because he was refusing to fill in the 37 VAT returns covering the period for which the courts found him to be legally responsible and guilty.
Dr Vassallo, however, was still in time to regularise his position by filling in the VAT forms for the years at issue so that his plea for a pardon could be considered.
The ministry also published the report of the VAT Commissioner on the case.
03/06/08 9:48 AM, dirty harry
harry will never serve jail time...
What he is convicting of can any time be turned back into paying the fine.
I think no sane man will prefer going to jail than paying a 6k fine.
It has been reported that the ministry just issued a report stating that he is still in time to solve the issue
03/06/08 9:39 AM, Ex-Laburist
Kif Dr Sant ma qalx xejn fuq il-mizbla ta Kus fix-Xewkija?Il-laburisti Xewkin ma irrudx il-heliport fix-Xewkija.
Vot to GOZITAN PARTY.
03/06/08 9:39 AM,
What would happen if harry is elected to Parlament and forms a coalition government and then put in jail?
I think this is an important question an worthy of public scrutiny.
03/06/08 9:09 AM,
Smajtu li instab rapport iehor ta jeffrey pullicin ??? Kuntratt iffirmat minnu stess f jannar li ghadda li jiddeskrivi x ha jigri mill art
03/06/08 9:06 AM, Jason
Does anybody recall a very fierce attack on Harry Vassallo's court affairs on Xarabank by a prominent PN MEP and EU guru...?
03/06/08 8:38 AM, dirty harry
In the times article, it states that the police first called harry, but don't say if it was in the morning.
If it was in the morning I assume that NET journalists got to know it from inside sources close to AD.
That is how information arrives from one party to another.
Since, the sergant who was in contact with Harry volunteered to make a sworn declaration that he never contacted any media.link journalist.
Maybe some of the top AD people are too annoyed with how Harry is leading the party. We already had one of the top AD candidates resigning beacuse of the leadership.
Just observing....
03/06/08 8:36 AM,
I think we are underestimating Harry, if he forgot that the police didn't came for the sole reason to present Harry with the warrants, maybe someone from AD programmed a phone call to NET!!
Maybe Harry, also forgot to tell us who called.
The first issue which MLP will tackle if they win the majority they have to send Harry to Jail because they promised ZERO tolerance.
03/06/08 8:31 AM,
vasallo should have said that the sergeant went at his house to investigate about the theft next door and that while he was there he talked to him about the arrest,it should of stopped there for now.PN have nothing to do with it.the sergeant has volunteered to make a sworn statement about this case.
03/06/08 8:26 AM,
Correct me if I'm wrong,
ok let's say Harry made up the story,did anyone heard in yesterday's net news that it wasn't true that their jounalists knew about it. So how did they know?
03/06/08 8:21 AM,
qabel kulhad iparla morru fuq the times tkellem il kummisarju ,lesti jahilfu li hadd ma kien jaf bdal kas,i surgent mar ikellem il vasallo fuq xi serqa li saret vicin ta dar ta vassallo biex jara setawx dahlu min ghandu,waqt li kien hemme semmielu dil bicca xoghol tal arrest,MANDOMX XJAQSMU I NAZZJONALISTI
03/06/08 8:08 AM, Mike Farrugia
Harry for Prime Minister!!! Dear Voter with Harry as the new prime Minister one may forget to pay his taxes. If he than will be forced to pay any fines than just inform the media sent for your family and then inform the Media that you are a victim of the PN.
Maybe Harry you are in the wrong party as AN welcomes anybody who is on the wrong side of the law.
Remember some Anglu who also owe the government that is each voter money.
just to let you know when a common citizen doesn't pay a traffic fine even after the tribunal his car licences will not be renewed, Maybe AD will propose that if elected they will give a general pardon to those who do not pay fines.
03/06/08 8:01 AM, Alex Said
AD never said that Harry did not know.
I am still disgusted at the PN political machine!
How could they use something of such a private nature against a political opponent.
How could they stoop so low.
03/06/08 7:59 AM, dirty harry
I have an idea why our dear harry did not want to mention about the main reason the police went knocking on his door.
So, a few days ago it became public that harry is one of those protected tenants by the old housing law. When this became public many people raised an eyebrow and were saying how come he is in favour of changing the rent law, when he is one of those protected tenants. Then they added that he should lead by example and give back his home to the owner, lead by example if that is really what he believed in.
Now from this unfortunate robbery, it also became public that harry's family has a VACANT property touching the property that was robbed. This means that Vassallo's credibilty will be much more detered since he is a protected tenant with a vacant property.
This is just an observation, I made, what do you guys/gals think?
03/06/08 7:55 AM,
Why did not Harry tell us in the first place that they went to his house to inform him about the theft? Then told us about the arrest warrent. Very cheap Harry If I were to give you my vote (which I was not going to)I would think it twice
03/06/08 7:54 AM, il-pruzuntuz
ma wegibtx id domanda tieghi u ghalhekk ma rnexxilekx tikkonvincini nivvota lejber...
Ghal informazzjoni tieghek, jien mizzewweg b 2 itfal, u m ghandix bzonn pariri jew interpretazzjonijiet ta affarijiet maghrufa illi apparentament inti tidher li ghandek diffikulta tifhem (bhal VAT fuq l edukazzjoni, qabel tparla iccekja il ligi ... u qabel tirrispondi kun ghaf li lapes mhux edukazzjoni u uniformi mhux edukazzjoni ... jekk tixtieq tkun taf xi tfisser edukazzjoni aqbad dizzjunarju). Li forsi ma tafx int (jew forsi tisthi isemmihom) huwa il fatt li skond bil Pjan ta Rigenerazzjoni Ekonomika u Socjali, dokument ta MLP, hemm miktub li se jitnehha il limitu li fuqu tithallas il bolla. Cioe taqqis ta mijiet, nirrepeti MIJIET, ta liri mil paga.
03/06/08 7:49 AM, Charles
I have read the Comm of Police statement and I find nothing new. He admitted that the police had the arrest warrant since Sept 2007. What a shame!
I am not an AD supporter but I admire Harry for his dedication and sacrifices he makes to promote his green cause.
Shame!! Shame!! Shame!! on the PN. The PN was degrated to trash and scandals. I will now vote for Harry's party.
03/06/08 7:46 AM,
Il Kummisarju .. Int temmen kollox li taqra ukoll ??? Ghax jien wisq inxomma tinten din il haga ... Ghadni kemm qrajt it times issa.. Xorta jibqa il fatt li kellha issir ilbierah il bicca ??? U il pulizija qalu li ma qalu lil hadd allura il gurnalisti kif kienu jafu ????????
03/06/08 7:39 AM, Il-Kummissarju
Serqu id dar tal-gar ta' Harry Vassallo….marru l-pulizijja ghandu biex jaraw jekk xi hadd dahalx mid dar tieghu biex jidhlu ghand il-gar
U kif kienu hemm dan is surgentt saqsieh x kien gara mill kaz tieghu dwar il-hlas tas-6000 lira VAT….u dan dawwarha li taparsi marru ghandu biex jarrestawh !
Nistaqsi il-ghala Harry ma semmiex din tas-serqa , ghax nghid jien kieku veru kellu jmur il-habs kien jkollu jmur, le?
Mela Harry veru qieghed jittiehed minn Freddie.
Salv din ma' indagajtiex tajjeb!
03/06/08 7:35 AM,
I really agree with you Mario ,its the way I see it.
03/06/08 7:30 AM, Alex Said
PF: What negative tactics?!
The PN should have never brought the case out in public in the first place!
The issue in question is one of a private nature. Tax law, is something private, especially when the issue is coupled with the following facts:
a. the dispute is between Harry and the asshole who took over the company after Harry's resignation.
b. it is crystal clear that Harry did not do any harm, i.e. he did not defraud tax law, bla bla bla. He did nothing which is malicious. Not even negligent!
This is an issue of Harry's private life. Do we inquire into other people's private lives on these issues?
It is true that politicians are subject to a higher degree of public scrutiny, but as I said this is something of a purely private nature. This is something between Harry and a former colleague who screwed him!
And PN are making use of this sitution!
03/06/08 7:27 AM, mario
I believe that the maltese have created a monster in the last 20 years and this monster is getting bigger and more powerful. I supported this monster in 1998 and 2003 because they convinced me that it was the best party with the best issues for Malta. But now i completely changed my idea and I strongly believe that this monster must be knocked down as soon as possible cause it will get bigger and more dangerous. But I am aware that it is very hard to knock it down. But it must be knocked down. Malta needs a change. I believe in this change.
03/06/08 7:22 AM, P F
I have realised after all that is hapenning, that it is clear that even AD is using the same negative tactics MLP are using. For me the most important thing is that I will not do anything that will change the current economic situation hence will probably vote for a status quo. Sorry harry lost my vote.
03/06/08 7:22 AM, FLASH NEWS
Il-Kummissarju hareg stqarrija li twaqqa dak kollu li qall Harry Vassallo.
Min irid jaraha jista jmur fuq timesofmalta.com
Vote Harry, Get Freddie.
03/06/08 7:18 AM,
03/06/08 7:07 AM,
Hemm cans li jwiegeb Dr Vassallo, ma nahsiebx li ghandu.History really repeat itself.I agree with you Saviour.
03/06/08 7:02 AM,
03/06/08 6:55 AM,
Tahsbu li x hadd ha jitfha l gebla fuq saqajh? X'tahwied!!!!
03/06/08 6:51 AM, Alex Said
My last post is in reply to the bloke who did the post on this time:
Posted at: 2008-03-06 06:16:02
which started "dear alex"
03/06/08 6:49 AM, stevedemanuele
i will have to vote mlp now,because i just bet on them...i bet on unibet....i bet 200 euros,and if mlp win,i will win 200euros i bet + 110 euros....the bets are 1.55 for labour,and 2.15 for pn....this means that labour are clear favourites(and,unlike betfair,this bet is on the percentage of votes,and not on seats)...just like i said on the survey....
the link is here
https://www.unibet.com/punter/index.jsp?mainFramePage=about_unibet.jsp
03/06/08 6:49 AM, Alex Said
Just because one is a lawyer doesn't meant s/he earns shitloads of cash!
There many Human Rights Lawyers (even in Malta) that earn shit wage just because they believe in their cause. Such people have become lawyers because they believe in Justice and not because they believe Justice can make them rich!!
And poor Harry is just one of them!
The fuckup in life is that if you're a good and a decent person, and you really work for the benefit of society and the environemnt bla bla bla you'll end up in the situation of Harry! Or even worse!
Just like the Human Rights' lawyer who had her door/car/house entrance torched because she works with asylum seekers. Does she have a decent wage?
p.s. Saviour Balzan: You disgust me!! How the fuck did you conclude that Harry is a disorganized person?!
Harry was found liable to tax just because the courts follow the law ad verbatim without seeing the impact it has on the people.
Last year I came across a Maltese court case where an innocent bloke had to pay Lm15,000 just because when he signed a commercial transaction he forgot to stipulate that he was signing on behalf of a company, which subsequently went bankrupt.
The PN are just abusing of this situation! People have faith in our courts of law, and anything emanating from the law courts is seen as holy! If the courts say that Harry's got to go to jail, than people Harry's in the wrong (either maliciously or negligently).
The PN are just exploiting this fact.
03/06/08 6:48 AM,
All will be ok and back to normal when he pays up like all the rest.
03/06/08 6:48 AM, Max
Please read the statement from the Police Commissioner. Dr Vassallo do not tell us the Truth.
03/06/08 6:46 AM,
Jekk int pruzuntuz u lilek ma jaffetwakx certu proposti li ghandu il- labour ahjar toqghod kwiet u ma turix kemm veru it- tajn qieghed f' ghajnejk u imkien iktar.
Nibdew mis- surcharge li ma semmejt xejn fuqa int...forsi ghax tghix m'ommok u ma missierek u ssib kollox lest u l- ebda kont ma jigi ghal wiccek ghalkemm eh bilhaqq ta GonziPN offrewla il- bozoz. Tal- Vat ifhima kif trid int ghax jien ma nafx kemm tonfoq flus fl- edukazzjoni pero jekk forsi ghandek hutek zghar tista thares lejhom u taghmel il- kalkoli.
L- overtime skond int ma jaffetwakx allura jista ma jaghmel xejn fuqu..mhux hekk? Tipikament egoizmu dak.
U ir- reception class biex forsi l- istudenti zghar ikollhom iktar bazi sodi qabel ma jibdew jidhlu ghas- serjeta tal- istudju.
It- tajn jibqa jintefa sakemm jinkexef kull min hu korrott. Biex forsi innaqsu minnu ghid lil JPO itina ftit dmugh ha nahsluh malajr.
03/06/08 6:45 AM, Lucy
Shocking. Just heard about what happened to Harry Vassallo. Hope it all turns out ok for him and his family.
Strengthens my wish to get out asap...
03/06/08 6:36 AM,
Mela 50 - 50 John l-ebda partit ma tilef. Rebhu AD l-stess kif ivvutajtu l-elezzjoni l-ohra.
03/06/08 6:35 AM,
wara li jnaqqas is surcharge, inehhi il VAT fuq l edukazzjoni (li il PN se jtuhomli b caqlil fit tax brackets), inehhi taxxa fuq overtime (li mhux se taffetwani ghax ma naghmilx overtime) u jdahhal ir reception class), jista xi hadd ifehmni x behsiebu jaghmel l MLP fil hames snin li gejjin? forsi jimsah t tajn li ghadu ma xebax iwaddab?
03/06/08 6:33 AM, john Vella
Pls, stop all this nonsense, I was one of the few that Saturday come will not vote. But now I have changed my mind, and yes vote with conviction to AD yes vote No.1 AD. All my family have decided to vote AD. Last election my family some voted PN and some MLP.
03/06/08 6:32 AM,
In 1996 PN were certain that they were going to win the election and could not believe it in fact EFA had cried out photo finish. The story is repeating itself on the MLP camp who are telling their supporters that the win is certainly theirs. In fact one supporter told me that they are 6000 votes up another said 13% up,PN supporters are down and saying a sure loss we have to wait and see may be we will see a SURPRISE SURPRISE
03/06/08 6:28 AM,
Why was his family around him? are you sure?
03/06/08 6:27 AM,
As i know it yes it was like that ... he was not informed by the police yet .. the police went 4 hours later
03/06/08 6:27 AM,
Dear Marine, as I said before I do not really care if you believe me or not.
03/06/08 6:26 AM,
Was Harry ask by net about the vat issue when he was already informed by the police. What I mean is was he ask by Net when his family was around him.
03/06/08 6:23 AM,
where is this staement?
What is in it?
03/06/08 6:22 AM,
Ghal li jista jkun mhux floter hux in nick name tieghek Simon?
03/06/08 6:20 AM,
Yes, I believe what you said about the 4 members of the same family!!!!!!!! Go tell it to the marines!!!!!! This Sunday you will have the shock of your life when you hear the MLP supporters and others (Ex-PN) celebrating.
My footnote: I really hope that the celebrations are held in an civilised and organised way without insulting others.
03/06/08 6:19 AM, Falzon
Where is this statement ?
03/06/08 6:19 AM, John Schembri
Whom are we going to vote for Prime Minister, and please give VALID reasons, which will affect your bread and butter.I don't want to hear more arguments, I am sure that after the election we will know what happened ,people out there are not going to feed their families with these arguments and theories.I will only have myself to blame if I vote for Harry just because he seems to be a victim.
I just heard something about a theft in the neighborhood of Vassallo's residence is their a twist. It was the commissioner who spoke .
All you elves of both sides go and try to twist in your favour what the commissioner said.
03/06/08 6:16 AM,
Police Commissioner just issued statement with all the facts.
03/06/08 6:16 AM,
dear alex,
I got a Lm200 fine, because I didn't send my income tax return.
I was and still am abroad studying and have a part-time job here so I pay taxes in another EU country.
In principle I should have never paid anything, but since my family forget to inform me that I got that paper. I had no option to pay the fine.
I feel it was an injustuce as the one with Harry, but being no one, I had no option but to pay.But again both myself and Harry were a bit careless.
This are loopwholes in the law.
As a side note, does anyone really believe that Harry being a lawyer accepted to earn only Lm400 a month?
Just asking...
03/06/08 6:15 AM,
Neither media link nor gonzi had anything to do with what have happened yesterday to Harry (so they said),remember what daphne says vote harry get freddie. We should all be ashemed of what have happened yesterday,l aqwa li hamguh u kixfuh X'JIMPURTHOM
03/06/08 6:08 AM, simon
Min ghamel hekk lil Harry huwa zgur biex jhammeg lil PN , skuzi nghid lil kulhadd ghandkom SENS!!
GHAX IL PN ghamel u jrid jaghmel il-gid ma kulhadd allura nwarbuh ghal xi hadd bla pjan u li ma tkellem ma hadd dwar xghandu f'mohhu u jitfa tghajn biss.
Issa izjed min zgur nivvota PN fit-8 ta Marzu.
03/06/08 6:07 AM,
Saviour from my logistics you might be in for a surprise. This morning was happy to hear from 4 persons of the same family who had vowed not to vote for PN and this is the wording I got from one of them "kontra qalbna sejjer ikollna nivvutaw PN mhabba AS". Believe me if you want if not I do not really care the result counts.
03/06/08 6:07 AM, Alex Said
This is a true story that sheds light on how unfair and unjust our legal system is and I resemble this case with what happened to Dr. Vassallo:
A prostitute and her client where charged before a court. The prostitute was found guilty for being a prostitute and was subsequently imprisoned. Her client didn’t admit to the wrong-doing and insisted on his innocence. The only evidence the police had against the client was the prostitute herself, though who according to Procedural Law, was not valid evidence due to her status as a convicted offender. So while the prostitute served her prison sentence the Court had no choice but to free the client who led to her imprisonment since there was no credible evidence supporting the sex offence he was charged with.
Comparing this with the Vassallo case:
Why should Procedural Law force a person who has declared that he is no longer representing a company (and is indeed succeed by another director) to be burdened with the wrong-doings of the latter director? Procedural Law used in this case against Vassallo is manifestly unjust and unfair! To make matters worse this injustice in Procedural Law is being abused by the Nationalist party to solidify an argument a false argument that Vassallo is disorganized and should not be trusted.
Injustice in Procedural Law is not a red moon. Hundreds of offenders have been criminally discharged just because there was a procedural error on behalf of the Police, such as missing a form or a signature or a date. Two months a colleague of mine managed to avoid pay a parking fine just because the local warden noted down the adjacent street address of where the civil offence took place. The presiding magistrate at the Local Councils Tribunal threw out the case on the grounds of Procedural Law. On these grounds the President should really reconsider the Vassallo case.
It is clear that justice can not only be blind, but it can also be severely disabled.
Justice for Harry Vassallo!
03/06/08 6:01 AM, steve demanuele
ghaziz tony tanti...jien qed nikkalkula li barra l 1.7(minimu) li jistghu jgibu l ad,se jkun hemm total iehor ta voti all an...nahseb li f din ic cirkostanza,b 2 percent lil kandidati indipendenti,including ad,il labour jitla...ma nahsibx lil labour se jgib iktar minn 50 pero
03/06/08 6:01 AM, Shannon
I have downloaded the pdf of Malta Today but Page 5 is blank. Can someone post it pls?
03/06/08 5:57 AM, steve demanuele
jien kont naqbel mieghek,li sal gimgha l ohra mlp u pn kieku neck to neck....imma skuzani,ma naqbilx mieghek dil gimgha....huma mhux se jghidulek li l mlp rebah minhabba l margin of error...huma ghandhom l iskuza li jghidulek li meta sar dak is survey,kien fadal 4 days ghall elezzjoni,u li xi nies biddlu l fehma fl ahhar..hemm ukoll il kaz ta harry vassallo...din tista tkun skuza ohra ghall mt...
03/06/08 5:46 AM,
Smajt li pulizija qed jigi investigat minhabba xi traskuragn ? Veru li Harry qal li kien Marid?
03/06/08 5:39 AM,
Well Said eurovision .... we r in the net again of divisive politics..... all we know after the last weeks that politicians whose priorities' are the citizens interests are a very rare species indeed..... and the biggest issue for this election was that there was no issue!!!!! come wot may.... freddie or lawry or harry or josie...europe will rule....thats why we joined...no?!!!
03/06/08 5:39 AM,
Makes you wonder just how stupid the PN thinks the electorate is.
If anyone is mentally deficient it would have to be the person who orchestrates these pathetic farces.
Well done whoever you are!
03/06/08 5:35 AM, S M
Ahjar tinvestigaw lil min qed jaghmel din il-hsara lil PN (gagbin f'xi dipartiment tal-gvern)- forsi xi wiehed li jrid jilhaq bir-riha ta Harry Vassallo li z-zeffen fin-nofs bla htija? Dan ghandu l-familja u jisthoqq li jinghata l-proklama jekk haqqu.
03/06/08 5:14 AM, Tony Tanti
Ma naqbilx ma' Steve Demanuele li, jekk l-AD igibu 1.7 fil-mija tal-voti tkun tfisser daqqa kbira lill-PN. Jekk tassew l-AD igibu dak il-percentagg, ma nahsibx li wiehed ikun jista' jghid li jkunu ghamlu xi success kbir!
Infakkar li fl-elezzjoni tal-1992 l-AD kienu gabu 1.7 fil-mija tal-voti wkoll u l-PN kien elett. Fl-1996 l-AD gabu 1.5 fil-mija u kien elett l-MLP. Fl-1998 u fl-2003 l-AD gabu 1.2 u 0.7 fil-mija rispettivament u kien elett il-PN.
03/06/08 5:08 AM, Falzon
Naqbel mijak jien anonimu ... impossibli li ma kienx jaf bija imma kif qedt xi darba din il gimgha nahseb irida ta xi qaddis Lawrence Gonzi ... Where us the Halo miskin ?
03/06/08 4:57 AM,
x ma jafx bija gonzi kemm ghadek bahnan hi..kiku ma jafx bija ghala marru tan net ghand s sur vassallo.. mela veru ghomja jew. qum habib
03/06/08 4:53 AM, Ivan
Is-survey bhas surveys kollha ta qablu jibda b diskrepanza enormi lejn l-mlp. Hu minn tal-lum fejn dawk li rrispondew qalu li fit-2003 47% ivvutaw pn filwaqt li 31% biss qalu li vvutaw mlp. Mela bdejna b distakk ta 16% .Skond is-survey il-PN qed jitlef 5.7% lil MLP , filwaqt li l-MLP qed jitlef 2.8% lejn il-PN. Miniex qed nidhol fid-dettal ta dawk li ghadhom undecided. Wara dan kollu nispiccaw bil-pn 1.7% biss fuq l-mlp.Nahseb li s-survey jitkellem car hafna. Il-bidla waslet u l-ahhar zvilluppi li graw dil-gimgha jikkonfermaw dan.Mhux ta b xejn il-PN qieghed f panic !
03/06/08 4:51 AM,
Mr Vassallo,please give us a good example paid your tax in time.
03/06/08 4:48 AM, Noel Sant
So if Alfred Sant accuses JPO of corruption without proof a week before the election, shame on PN and JPO who lied or should have known even though he never went to Court or had a chance to defend himself and well done Fredu.
If Police present themselves to Harry Vassallo to do their job and arrest him, then shame on PN because (it is assumed) they are the ones who told the police to do their job but it's too close to the election and poor Harry because he has a sentence against him after having had the opportunity to defend himself in Court.
03/06/08 4:44 AM,
gonzi bniedem serju,ma jafx bija di ta vasallo, u ga et jitkixxef ha jara xgara ezat,min naha l ohra gbajna naraw kollox,il hama kollu hireg,dan frameup
03/06/08 4:27 AM, VIVA il eurovision
Hafna affarijiet mhux qed jigru kif suppost u il verita sfortunatament mhux qed tohrog kollha. Ma nemminx is survey ta maltatoday. Wara dak kollu li gara din il gimgha impossibli biex PN ghadhom min fuq.
Lanqas naqbel mal habib tieghi stevedemanuele, illi ghax margin of error is 2.8% and PN leads by 1.7% mela MLP will win.. Dan x argument hu. Il verita huja, illi kullhadd qed jiehu dawn is surveys at face value. Meta lanqas nafu ezatt kemm voti mhux ser jingabru? Lanqas nafu kemm nies mhux ser jivvutaw? Lanqas ghanda rajna l ahhar dibatitu fuq it television? (Ghidli kif gonzi ha johrog min din ta Harry ehh???)
Imma inkomplu. Jien nahseb illi elezzjoni neck to neck hafna did darba. M hemmx "by a good number" kif qalilna stevedemanuele.
Kollox hu possibli. Nhar is sibt kaxxa maghluqa.
l ghar haga li grat pero mhux il hmieg illi intefa, jew il korruzjoni illi inkixfet (u imnalla kien hekk) illi ergajna waqajna fix xibka tal politika, li ghal darba rebhet hi u firdet lil dal poplu.
Mhux li kienet elezzjoni bhal eurovision, fejn kulhadd jissaportja dakl li hu MALTI.
sahha u ivvotaw b mohhkhom...
03/06/08 4:22 AM,
In this mobile phone era could have someone sent a message to the PN Journalist , before the arrest?
All I can say is that the only gainer from this story is the MLP.
This is what I wrote earlier on the other blog.
Xi hadd dahru mal-hajt, jasal biex jghamel kollox ghal dak is-siggu.Naf li Harry ghandu Familja helwa , imma ma' kellux izeffen lit-tfal ,li imsieken ma' jafux x'laqathom.Zgur li Dr Gonzi m'ghandux bzonn dawn it-tattici , mhux stil tieghu! Dawn l-iskandli huma kollha tort tat-traskuragni ta' min ghandu 'hafna x'jghamel' u ma' jkunx jaf ezatt x'inhu jigri madwaru.Kemm il-darba ahna insejna inhallsu ,il-kont tad-dawl , intellghu il-karozza ghal VRT , ingeddu id-driving licence , nittoppjaw il-mobile , inhallsu il-licenzja tat-TV ,ingeddu l-internet , naqilbu il-flus mis-savings ghal current ,ingeddu l-inxurans tal-karozza,eccetra. U kemm nifirhu jekk insibu xi cekk li inkunu insejna insarfu (Rari).Nahseb li l-process ta' Harry ghandu jigi SOSPIZ IMMEDJATAMENT. U hu jieqaf jitkellem fuq il-kaz (nahseb jghidulu Sub Judice) , ikun jaqbel lil kulhadd, minbarra llil min riedu issa.Il-ministru tal-gustizzja jista; jaghmilha ta' l-avukat tieghu biex jissospendi il-procedura tal-habs ?
Posted at: 2008-03-05 23:42:31
Fuq dan il-blog Saviour semma li Harry huwa "traskurat" fil-Karti tieghu. Jikkonferma dak li qed nahseb li gara.
03/06/08 4:16 AM, steve demanuele
the biggest clue in my conclusion that the mlp would govern,even though the survey had a big number of undecided or non committed,is the fact that over 2% are constantly saying that they will vote ad...even if ad gets at least 1.7 percent in this election,this would be a heavy blow to pn,just like it was in the 2004 eu parliament election..
03/06/08 4:13 AM,
Grazzi lil Savior Balzan ghall-ahhar 'assessment' tieghu fuq kif nista' nifforma l-opinjoni tieghi ta' kif nivvota.Naqbel mieghu li nhar it-Tnejn xi hadd fil-PN irid jispjega, u jispjega sew dawn il-frejjeg ta' din l-ahhar gimgha. Il-bikja ta' JPO, l-attegjament hazin qabel il-konferenza stampa tal-MLP u din l-ahhar froga kienu l-ahhar ftit imsiemer fit-tebut ta' GonziPN.
03/06/08 4:10 AM, steve demanuele
hi...just read the last malta today survey.....just like i predicted...with the same discrepancy of the last survey(47% former pn and 31% former mlp),the pn lead has shrinked to 1.7% ....i can say with almost certainty now,that mlp will win the election,and by a good number of votes,if ad maintain at least that 1.5%(2.4% in the survey)
any comments or replies are welcome,especially from people who have read the survey...like i predicted,the result has fallen within the survey's margin of error(this time at 2.8%,and i think this is too low)
please,not partisan comments,only objective analysis..
thanks
03/06/08 4:03 AM,
what does it says couse i didnt see it?
03/06/08 3:52 AM, steve demanuele
has anybody seen and read the latest Malta today survey?? Can you comment??
